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b54red July 17, 2020 06:36 AM

The TSWV infections have slowed in the tomato plants but I am having more infections in my bell peppers. So far a little over a half dozen gone but I'm sure more will get it before the summer is over and I haven't picked a single bell pepper yet. TSWV is much harder to spot in peppers than in tomatoes because you don't usually see the speckling of the leaves as much. The first thing to look for is a plant that is really slow growing compared to the others planted the same time. Next look to see if there are any new blooms and new fruit. Sometimes the leaves will look a bit weird and unhealthy. Eventually there will be no new growth and sometimes a burned look where the new growth should be. I have a few more showing symptoms and will probably be pulling them soon. I planted another bed of peppers the last week so instead of trying to replace the ones that die from TSWV I just have some extras in the ground already. Not sure how well those plants will do as they have sat on the hardening table for a long time and were terribly root bound and very old for transplanting but I stuck them in the ground anyway since I had plenty of room since removing my cucumbers and squash.

Bill

barbamWY August 13, 2020 02:12 PM

Tswv is hitting me hard. I've been spraying every week with alternating insecticides plus have 12 yellow sticky traps that I have replaced for the second time. I've pulled at least 30 plants with about 20 plants left. Is it safe to use saved seed? I received some of Carolyn's last seed. I love Dikovinka and saved some of the first ripe tomato seeds. Inshir Rozovyi and Viva so far look okay but still green. I ordered and tried Slava this year and it seems to withstanding the onslaught. Mountain Magic didn't make it.

b54red August 18, 2020 12:50 PM

I've got a couple of more bells that need pulling due to TSWV after pulling one last week. I'm not worried about the tomatoes any more because most of them are pretty worn out and near the end unless I want to spend a lot of time and effort getting them back to making a few tomatoes. TSWV has not been too much of a problem with my tomatoes the past month because I have been spraying them regularly for spider mites and I think it has lessened the thrips infecting them.

Bill

atilgan September 20, 2020 04:25 PM

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Every single tomato in our community garden is infected like this. It is on leaves as well as on stems. Is it tswv

atilgan September 23, 2020 09:49 AM

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Here some more pictures

b54red September 23, 2020 09:45 PM

It sure looks like TSWV. Are the new blooms dying or dead? Is the top new growth looking like it is burned around the edges of the leaves?

If all your plants have it then there is no need to pull the plants if they have some healthy looking tomatoes on them. Let them start to ripen and by then the plants will probably start dying or wilting from the top. If what you have is TSWV it is very rare for a plant to continue producing new fruit although I have had it happen to a few and they held on for months with very slow production and smaller fruit; but usually it is only a matter of a few weeks at most before the plant starts dying after showing the rust like appearance in the leaves.

Bill

atilgan September 24, 2020 01:46 PM

Thank you for the explanation. I had cut the top to prevent it from spreading but it did not work

b54red September 26, 2020 04:36 AM

[QUOTE=atilgan;759850]Thank you for the explanation. I had cut the top to prevent it from spreading but it did not work[/QUOTE]

Once the plant is infected there isn't anything that I have tried or anything that I have heard of that slows it down or stops it. I have tried both removing plants immediately upon spotting the disease and leaving them in place until they die or wilt totally. It doesn't seem to make any difference in whether or not I got more infections on clean plants even the ones right next to each other. It must not spread very easily other than through the thrips that infect the plants initially and there doesn't seem to be any way to stop them from doing so when they show up. TSWV cases seem to come in waves at different times with usually the heaviest infestation early in the season and with lighter cases popping up from time to time over the whole season but that could just be my experience with the disease and it also could be my location.

The only effective thing I have found that has so far assured me of a productive season despite the ravages of TSWV is to plant far more tomatoes and peppers than I need and just remove the sick ones when it strikes. It can leave some very gappy rows at times of heavy or frequent infections of TSWV and at other times I end up with way more tomatoes than we can deal with in seasons where TSWV is not as pervasive as usual down here.

Bill

Fusion_power October 23, 2020 12:59 AM

That may be one of the Tomato Mottle viruses. For practical purposes, they are similar in many ways to TSWV. The only cure is to remove infected plants. Some breeders have been working on mottle virus resistance but are having difficulty getting the gene from a wild species to cross over into a better genetic background.

barbamWY January 21, 2021 01:30 PM

Can whitefly be a vector? My back garden seems to be worse for tomato growing. I did have raspberry plants move from the other side of the fence and I let them take over a raised bed. It has been a whitefly battle. The raspberries are about 20 feet from my other raised beds. Seriously I am thinking of giving up tomatoes in the back and growing them just in the front. We have a good source of water and I grow tomatoes there on cattle panels.
Thanks,
Barb

Fusion_power February 4, 2021 04:56 PM

Whiteflies are a vector for several other viruses such as TYLC so there is a good possibility they also transmit TSWV. It is most likely that other insects are the primary vector.

Fred Hempel February 4, 2021 04:59 PM

[QUOTE=barbamWY;761297]Can whitefly be a vector? My back garden seems to be worse for tomato growing. I did have raspberry plants move from the other side of the fence and I let them take over a raised bed. It has been a whitefly battle. The raspberries are about 20 feet from my other raised beds. Seriously I am thinking of giving up tomatoes in the back and growing them just in the front. We have a good source of water and I grow tomatoes there on cattle panels.
Thanks,
Barb[/QUOTE]

Had no idea white flies were a problem in Wyoming! Dang.

I would assume they can transmit various viruses. Thrips are also virus carriers.

barbamWY February 4, 2021 05:21 PM

[QUOTE=Fred Hempel;761696]Had no idea white flies were a problem in Wyoming! Dang.

I would assume they can transmit various viruses. Thrips are also virus carriers.[/QUOTE]
We have thrips and white flies both in Wyoming. My yellow sticky traps just get loaded with white flies. I did get thrips diagnosed from my friend who worked at the extension office. Pretty cool her computer screen could show me what was on my sticky trap. I have lots of land to spread out my plants. I bought a few grow bags to use on my patio but otherwise I'm giving up tomatoes near the raspberries. I wonder though. Is it safe to plant potatoes where I had disease issues on tomato plants?
Barb

Fred Hempel February 4, 2021 05:37 PM

No.

Potatoes get most of the same diseases.

I don't even grow potatoes, because all of my solanaceous rotation space is devoted to peppers and tomatoes.

Fusion_power February 5, 2021 01:52 PM

Whiteflies are becoming a problem in just about every state north of the Gulf Coast up to about Kentucky. Any location with suitable hot weather can develop an infestation. The most effective measures to limit damage are to eliminate common hiding places and remove plants that are alternative hosts. Spraying can be effective in some circumstances, but there are always more whiteflies to re-colonize an area.

Some work at Waginengen was discussed here a few times over the last 10 years indicating resistance breeding is viable. It is worth a look at the original papers.

[URL]https://www.academia.edu/6874956/Resistance_to_Bemisia_tabaci_in_tomato_wild_relatives[/URL]

Look at the bottom center of the page for a button to read online or you can download the pdf.

Here are some alternate links I've used before.

[URL]http://edepot.wur.nl/215863[/URL]

[URL]http://edepot.wur.nl/222200[/URL]

PaulF February 5, 2021 02:46 PM

A friend in my area grew hydroponic greenhouse tomatoes for a time. After several years he quit mostly because it was a money losing effort. Besides the profit issue he had whitefly problems.

None of his outdoor tomatoes had whitefly infestations despite being a short distance away from the greenhouses. I live 30 miles north of his gardens and greenhouses and have never had a whitefly.

Is it because even though we have hot and humid summers (although not like the southeast) followed by cold winter months which kill off the whiteflies? Most of the nasty diseases and insect pests are not prevalent here like in the southern states. Maybe the problems are killed off by our winters before they become issues.

But then why would Wyoming have the problems we do not see?

barbamWY February 5, 2021 03:51 PM

I don't recall having whiteflies until about 5 to 8 years ago. Two things that might of made a difference are the neighbors putting in a small green house and my raspberry patch volunteered into the vegetable garden and I let them stay. Our winters have gotten milder too so maybe they are overwintering. I have an attached sunroom and have not noticed whiteflies there but if I overwinter plants I have aphids. I'm in a warmer valley than most parts of Wyoming and high desert.
Barb

b54red April 29, 2021 05:31 AM

I already have one plant showing TSWV signs. It is only two feet tall and until day before yesterday looked outstandingly healthy. It still looks good except for the rusting look in some of the leaves and a slight change in the new growth. I wish it was another variety but it is my only Brandywine Cowlick's that I have planted so far this season. It is one of my very favorite large pink beefsteaks and it is almost always one of the most productive. I am in the process of potting up grafted plants and I hope that most of the varieties that survived the grafting this year are varieties that do well in the heat because I will be at the very least seven weeks behind my usual set out date this year. Plants put out in May and June down here better be able to take the heat and humidity and still produce decently.

I am sure this is just the first of many plants I will have to remove due to TSWV. It seems, for my garden at least, natures way of thinning out my plantings of tomatoes every year now.

Bill

b54red May 3, 2021 09:52 PM

I had to pull that Brandywine Cowlick's two days ago. The TSWV moved very quickly and the plant was fading fast. Today I was tying up plants and found the second plant with TSWV and it is an African Queen. I was so hoping I wouldn't see another for a while but no such luck. I am planning to start setting out my grafted plants this week or this weekend.

Bill

brooksville May 4, 2021 11:00 AM

We pulled on this weekend. No flowers!!

b54red June 17, 2021 06:14 AM

I had to remove five plants with TSWV from my first bed of grafted tomatoes yesterday and since the plants were only five weeks in the ground I replaced them immediately. I have a couple of others that may be sick but so far the only symptom showing on them is they are smaller than the surrounding plants which could be nothing so I will keep a close eye on them. As of now my TSWV loses are running at slightly less than 10% so nothing much beyond what I expect every year now. I have set out more plants than normal this year so even if the loses get as high as 20% or 25% it won't be a tragedy. I would love it if it stayed as low as it is now which is basically my minimum lose each year to TSWV. I have also been hit really hard by fusarium wilt in my earliest bed of tomatoes which was the only one with non grafted plants I set out this year. At least half of them are being affected by fusarium and I have already had almost a third of them die from it. Out of 23 plants in that bed only about six seem unaffected by either fusarium wilt or TSWV.

Bill

paradajky June 17, 2021 03:40 PM

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This kellog's breakfast was picked up from the nursery here in coastal southern california. Can't tell if this is stressed or TSWV or something similar? Take it back or try it? Destined for container.

atilgan July 12, 2021 02:08 PM

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I posted pictures last year. The disease came back. Is it TSWV?
Thanks in advance.

atilgan July 13, 2021 01:25 PM

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Here is another picture

Shrinkrap July 14, 2021 02:11 AM

Hello! My son lives in Eregli! Have you had a lot of rain? That looks like a blight to me, but I have not had one here in California. I did pull a few purplish leaved plants last year thinking TMSV, but they did not have any spots or splotches, and no wilting.

atilgan July 16, 2021 07:58 AM

Hi, Eregli is close to my home town. It could be combination of two diseases I have searched the net not one single disease seems to fit the symptoms.

atilgan January 17, 2022 11:15 AM

What we have could be a new virus called tomato necrotic spot virus. Not to be confused with inpatient necrotic spot virus which is related to TSWV. I wish they had better pictures describing these diseases.

b54red April 27, 2022 07:28 AM

I have already lost one plant to TSWV a German Queen and suspect another is infected. The first sign of the disease on smaller plants is they fall behind in growth usually before the other symptoms appear. My 14 plants had only been in the garden a few weeks when I noticed the slower than normal growth with my German Queen and Neves Azorean Red. I pulled the GQ two days ago when the leaf changes confirmed my diagnosis of TSWV and I am pretty sure the NAR will be showing the signs within a day or two. Both plants are about 18 inches tall while the other 12 are easily three feet tall.

Bill

MrsJustice April 27, 2022 09:28 AM

Hello b54red
I am sorry about your infected Plants.
Is it possible you planted too early? Because I am just putting my plants slowly in the ground here in Virginia only if they show signs of strength serving cold nights outside.

b54red April 27, 2022 03:30 PM

[QUOTE=MrsJustice;767827]Hello b54red
I am sorry about your infected Plants.
Is it possible you planted too early? Because I am just putting my plants slowly in the ground here in Virginia only if they show signs of strength serving cold nights outside.[/QUOTE]

No it is just TSWV which hits anywhere from 10% of my plants in a good year to 30% to 40% in a bad year. I have known a few people who lost every plant within a two week period to TSWV. Since I plant a lot of plants and stagger my plantings from March through July so far I haven't had a year where I lost more than around 30% to TSWV.
It is just one of the many things you deal with growing tomatoes down here near the gulf coast.

Bill


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