[QUOTE=hl2601;761059]Wait- @fredhempel can we talk a second about Evil Olive? Its currently got a spot on my grow list! Do tell...![/QUOTE]

Horrible flavor. For me.

Orange Russian and Orange Russian 117 are 2 different varieties.

At least according to someone in a group on FB. 1 is a flat beef and 2 is a heart. It is possible that Tomatobase has it wrong. With all the varieties she lists there have been a few mistakes.

But I or that person on FB could be mistaken too.

Carol

BTW, Evil Olive is getting a fair amount of attention on FB by someone that I sometimes wonder about.

Tatiana has the correct descriptions for both and even a mention that they are two different varieties.