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Rockporter July 8, 2017 09:37 AM

[QUOTE=Worth1;652825]Mr Tode I cannot express to you how much I despise cooking on gas.

But please folks if you wish put in your ideas on what you would like in a grill.
Things such as height and so on.
Worth.[/QUOTE]

Sadly, gas is the only way to go for me. I can't breath with the smoke coming from the wood or coal and the food too. :?:

Gerardo July 8, 2017 09:54 AM

not too much surface area, otherwise you Frodos will need a step stool to reach the back slabs of "vacío" and "bifé"

Worth1 July 8, 2017 09:57 AM

[QUOTE=Rockporter;652915]Sadly, gas is the only way to go for me. I can't breath with the smoke coming from the wood or coal and the food too. :?:[/QUOTE]

I have yet to see a home gas grill that gets hot enough.

Not to say you cant make one.

Worth

Father'sDaughter July 8, 2017 10:23 AM

For easy height adjustment, you would need something like a lift table. Manual for us poor folk, electronic controlled for those who can afford the upcharge.

Worth1 July 8, 2017 10:27 AM

[QUOTE=Gerardo;652923]not too much surface area, otherwise you Frodos will need a step stool to reach the back slabs of "vacío" and "bifé"[/QUOTE]

One thing to consider is waste and standard lengths of metal supplies.
You cant keep those rules all of the time or it will limit you.

Angle iron for the most part comes in 20 foot lengths.
The factors for 20 are 2,4,5,10 not including numbers like 2.5 and so on.
For those that forgot math class like I did a factor is a number that can be divided evenly into another number.
I use factors all of the time when I design things to cut down on waste at work.

The average stove top is 24 inches you could make it 30 inches deep and still get 8 pieces, not including saw waste.

I think 24 to 30 inches deep and 3 to 4 feet wide is more than big enough?

Worth

Worth1 July 8, 2017 10:28 AM

[QUOTE=Father'sDaughter;652930]For easy height adjustment, you would need something like a lift table. Manual for us poor folk, electronic controlled for those who can afford the upcharge.[/QUOTE]

What do you mean by a lift table?

Worth

Worth1 July 8, 2017 10:37 AM

I'm going to make this last post and go to the store for something before it gets to crowded.
While we are making this grill we will explore all sorts of wonderful things.
Stuff like helix angle the inclined plane and leverage and how we can take advantage of them.
There is one thing I have over most of the people that make BBQ grills.
I own a lathe and know how to use it.

Worth

Father'sDaughter July 8, 2017 11:06 AM

[QUOTE=Worth1;652932]What do you mean by a lift table?

Worth[/QUOTE]



Something like this --

[IMG]http://www.northerntool.com/images/product/400x400/444/44497_1_400x400.jpg[/IMG]

Worth1 July 8, 2017 12:19 PM

[QUOTE=Father'sDaughter;652949]Something like this --

[IMG]http://www.northerntool.com/images/product/400x400/444/44497_1_400x400.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]

It was a thought but I have a better idea that will serve two needs at one time.

Worth.

Fusion_power July 9, 2017 06:45 AM

I hate the junky small wheels on most grills. Can you build it such that the grill is on a trailer that can be towed behind a truck?

I looked through the designs in several pictures online. Have you picked an interior length for the grill? If not, may I suggest either 5 or 6 feet and include removable interior dividers so different heat can be applied according to needed cooking temperature.

While I like the overall design, if this grill is used outdoors, wind will be a problem. Will you incorporate some kind of shield or heat reflector?

When setting the fire bricks, suggest getting some stainless steel wool to use as a bed. Fire bricks direct on steel plate eventually break. The steel wool should cushion them a bit.

I presume it will be painted with high temperature paint.

Worth1 July 9, 2017 08:40 AM

This guy makes a nice grill and other stuff, I have posted about him before.
[url]http://www.azbbqgrills.com/page17/page3/page3.html[/url]

No way do I want to make a direct copy of his stuff.

The grill I would make would be for myself and wouldn't need it to be too big.:lol:

Worth

Worth1 July 9, 2017 11:07 AM

I just did the numbers on the lower steel box alone at 3/16 inch thick plate.
This would be 2 feet wide one foot tall and 3 feet long.
Around 122.4 pounds or 55.5 kilograms.
3/16 steel plate is 7.65 pounds per square foot.
Worth

oakley July 9, 2017 12:24 PM

We have always wanted this set-up...
(just needs a rotisserie rod)

Fire Breathing duo...
[URL="http://texasovenco.com/argentinian-grill/"]http://texasovenco.com/argentinian-grill/[/URL]

Worth1 July 9, 2017 01:11 PM

The cover/lid on top is perplexing me and still have the grill adjustable.
In Coles pictuer the cables are on the inside this eliminates any way of doing it with cables.
The other company does it with the cables on the outside.
It will allow you to put a cover on it but the grill has to be down to do this.
You could have a slot for where the piece that connects the cable but it would have to be at a radius.
This too will eliminate the ability to move the grill up and down with the lid closed.

The only way to do what I want it to do is to make that grill go up and down from the bottom.
This can be done several ways.
Worth

dmforcier July 9, 2017 04:58 PM

You could go really machinist crazy and cut threads on the posts supporting the rack, with thread follower blocks on the rack. Then gear and worm at the top to drive the screws from the crank. Rod and second worm, or chain and sprockets to synchronize the screws.

I had a router table that was set up this way to raise and lower the heavy vertical table on which the router was mounted. It worked very well - nice and smooth.


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