I have reduced the number of peppers I grow and focus mostly on the ones I can use, though I still like to try a few new ones. Last week I started the following Chiles:
San Sebastian (From the Basque region in Spain) Aji Amarillo Black Congo Red Fatali Yellow Manzano Chimayo Brown Rocoto Aji Benito Piquillo Sweet Peppers" Palancko Cudo Somborka L'Orto di Napoli Belecanto Beaver Dam Shepherd Peppers (Seed from peppers grown in Ontario) |
[QUOTE=Fred Hempel;680245]Just because fruit color, shape and size "grow true" does not mean that the peppers are OP.
Both parents of a hybrid can have very similar peppers but be different in any number of other traits that may be subtle (eg. disease resistance). Since I can find over 5 reputable seed sellers that sell them as F1 hybrids, I think it is very likely they are. Of course it could be a conspiracy between all of these seed companies, but personally, I doubt it. I know there have been charlatans who have sold OPs as hybrids in the past, but I think many folks now are too quick to assume malfeasance when there is none.[/QUOTE] I reckon I learned something today. I never would have thought of peppers growing true, at least in phenotype could still be a hybrid. But it makes sense. I don't have much of any disease pressure on my peppers so I don't know about those aspects. I guess for my purposes I consider them OP, they are consistent from year to year and always delicious. |
If they behave similarly to an OP, that is a good thing. Still a good idea to always save seeds from the best plant or plants (depending on how many you grow).
[QUOTE=jmsieglaff;680277]I reckon I learned something today. I never would have thought of peppers growing true, at least in phenotype could still be a hybrid. But it makes sense. I don't have much of any disease pressure on my peppers so I don't know about those aspects. I guess for my purposes I consider them OP, they are consistent from year to year and always delicious.[/QUOTE] |
[QUOTE=jmsieglaff;680227]Do any of you huge pepper list growers make your own hot sauce? Any tricks or tips should I ever want to try it?[/QUOTE]
Not a list grower here but learn to ferment them first. I have some now that have been going for months. |
[QUOTE=Salsacharley;680201]I'm overwintering these, hoping for nice big production this year.
Jalapeno - Craig's Grande Numex Orange Spice Numex Trick or Treat Rocotillo Santa Fe Grande Jay's Peach Ghost Trinidad Moruga Scorpion 7 Pot Yellow Aji Amarillo Grande Bahamian Goat Black Pearl Caribbean Seasoning (3rd year) Carolina Reaper Chapeau de Frade Chocolate Naga Brain I've got 30 more I want to try this year: 7 Pot Bubble Gum White 7 Pot Long 7 Pot Primo 7 Pot Primo Yellow Aleppo Bleeding Borg 9 Bulgarian Carrot Corbaci Cubanelle Datil St Augustine Habanero Costa Rica Habanero de Arbol Habanero White #2 Habanero White Mini Jimmy Nardello Lemon Drop Big Black Mama Big Mustard Mama Big Caramel Mama Manzano Yellow Numex Centennial Numex Easter Peter Pepper Orange Pimenta Leopard Purple UFO San Pedro Sweet Sugar Chili Sweet Banana Tabasco Zolotistyi Sweet Donkey Ears I don't know if I'll get all those going but they are my wish list. I'm cutting back on tomato varieties this year to make room for these.[/QUOTE] If you get them all going that will be a lot of pepper plants. I'm ordering 3 more earth- boxes to put most of my peppers in. I think I will have 10 or 11 boxes total. Some of the Jalapeno's will be in raised beds. [QUOTE=MdTNGrdner;680243]2017 was my first year trying peppers in containers, and they did very well - although to be fair, so did the ones in ground. It was my best pepper year, and yes jmsieglaff, I did make hot sauce. No tips or tricks for you except that it's well worth it to have the homemade stuff - DH and I loved it! I just used an internet recipe and mixed peppers, mostly habs. I'm excited to try again this season. Like SalsaCharlie I'm cutting the number of tomato plants, but not number of varieties. We have two new beds but added potatoes, sweet potatoes, more peppers, and a ton of beans... I'm really excited about those, too. Here's my pepper list - provided they germinate! I still had trouble with that last year. Aji Amarillo Aji Brazilian Starfish Aji Escabeche Ajvarski Alma Anaheim Ancho 101 Arroz con Pollo Banana, hot Banana, sweet Caloro Chilhuacle Rojo Congo Trinidad Corno di Toro, red Cosa Arrugada Cowhorn Cubanelle Datil Sweet De Bresse Doe Hill Dolce de Espagna Espelette Fehrer Onzon Frank's Fresno Friariello Fushimi Garden Salsa Golden Treasure Guernica Habanada Habanero Habanero, chocolate Habanero, pink Himo Togarashi Hot Portugal Inca Red Drop Jalapeno, Craig's Grande Jalapeno, Early Kaboutermutzen Leutschauer Manganji New-Mex Big Jim New-Mex Heritage 6-4 New-Mex Jalmundo New-Mex Joe E Parker New-Mex Twilight Ophelia Oranzhovoye Chudo Ozark Giant Pasilla Bajio Peppadew Peppadew, S.A.S. Pepperoncini Poblano Round of Hungary Serrano Huasteca Serrano Tampiqueno Shi★★★★o Sweet Pickle Takamatsume Tolli's Sweet West Allis 1/2 Sharp Wisconsin Lakes Yatsufusa Zavory Zolotoy Dozhd[/QUOTE] I like your list, all useable peppers. [QUOTE=velikipop;680264]I have reduced the number of peppers I grow and focus mostly on the ones I can use, though I still like to try a few new ones. Last week I started the following Chiles: San Sebastian (From the Basque region in Spain) Aji Amarillo Black Congo Red Fatali Yellow Manzano Chimayo Brown Rocoto Aji Benito Piquillo Sweet Peppers" Palancko Cudo Somborka L'Orto di Napoli Belecanto Beaver Dam Shepherd Peppers (Seed from peppers grown in Ontario)[/QUOTE] San Sebastian, I'll have to look that one up. Looks like everyone has Aji Amarillo on their list. I wonder if Fred has something to do with this.:) |
I love the Aji Amarillo, I've been growing the baby (2-3" long) Aji Amarillo from the seed Fred made available here a few years back. I find it is a very versatile and delicious pepper. I especially like the fruity, citrus like flavor along with a nice, yet usable amount of heat.
I use them on pizza, in roasted tomatillo salsa, sliced length-wise on sandwiches, in many dishes. I also freeze them whole in a freezer bag and that way I've got them year-round for cooking. One plant produces hundreds of those peppers over the course of a summer. |
I think I've sown too much... Anyway, half of them are going to my parents garden. But since they don't like hot peppers I guess the hot ones will grow here.
1. sweet peppers capsicum annuum Ophelia Jimmy Nardello Lipstick Kaboutermuts Zolotoy Dozhd Tolli’s sweet Ajvarski Golden treasure Fehrer Ozon Quadrato d’asti rosso Arroz con pollo Sweet pickle 2. Capsicum chinense Pink habanero Biquinho Biquinho Iracema Numex suave orange Datil sweet Congo trinidad 3. Capsicum baccatum Peppadew Peppadew South African strain Aji Brazilian starfish Aji escabeche 4. Capsicum annuum mildly hot Pitelca Heritage 6-4 5. Capsicum annuum hot Numex twilight Fish Jalapeno purple Early jalapeno Rezha Macendonian |
The bulk of my mix for market will be my best sweet varieties from last year:
Ajvarski Sweet Crunch Sweet Orange Sweetest Pepper Golden Treasure Erbil Sweet I will probably order Sweet Chocolate from Baker Creek [URL]https://www.rareseeds.com/sweet-chocolate/[/URL] as well as Candy Cane F1 from Harris: [URL]https://www.harrisseeds.com/collections/pepper/products/23432-sweet-pepper-candy-cane-red-f1[/URL] Hot peppers are a money-losing crop for me, but I still grow a few plants anyway. I do a lot better selling the plants than the peppers. Last year's winners were: Fatali Peach Bhut Orange Bhut Spanish Bhut Devil's Tongue Big Sun Habanero White Habanero (I have an unstable White Bullet Hab) I am also going to order seeds from this guy, who claims to have hotter varieties than Carolina Reaper. I think the plants will sell very easily: [URL]https://www.primospeppers.com/shop[/URL] I don't know if anyone would buy the actual peppers, but they would make a nice conversation piece on the market table. |
Primo is one of the supremeo of hot pepper developers and growers.
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No, I doubt that he would. The seed is from a colleague who visited the area several years ago and brought some dried peppers back. It is very similar to the famed Espelett from the same region. Great for drying and making powders.
Alex |
Beautiful list!!
[QUOTE=MdTNGrdner;680243]2017 was my first year trying peppers in containers, and they did very well - although to be fair, so did the ones in ground. It was my best pepper year, and yes jmsieglaff, I did make hot sauce. No tips or tricks for you except that it's well worth it to have the homemade stuff - DH and I loved it! I just used an internet recipe and mixed peppers, mostly habs. I'm excited to try again this season. Like SalsaCharlie I'm cutting the number of tomato plants, but not number of varieties. We have two new beds but added potatoes, sweet potatoes, more peppers, and a ton of beans... I'm really excited about those, too. Here's my pepper list - provided they germinate! I still had trouble with that last year. Aji Amarillo Aji Brazilian Starfish Aji Escabeche Ajvarski Alma Anaheim Ancho 101 Arroz con Pollo Banana, hot Banana, sweet Caloro Chilhuacle Rojo Congo Trinidad Corno di Toro, red Cosa Arrugada Cowhorn Cubanelle Datil Sweet De Bresse Doe Hill Dolce de Espagna Espelette Fehrer Onzon Frank's Fresno Friariello Fushimi Garden Salsa Golden Treasure Guernica Habanada Habanero Habanero, chocolate Habanero, pink Himo Togarashi Hot Portugal Inca Red Drop Jalapeno, Craig's Grande Jalapeno, Early Kaboutermutzen Leutschauer Manganji New-Mex Big Jim New-Mex Heritage 6-4 New-Mex Jalmundo New-Mex Joe E Parker New-Mex Twilight Ophelia Oranzhovoye Chudo Ozark Giant Pasilla Bajio Peppadew Peppadew, S.A.S. Pepperoncini Poblano Round of Hungary Serrano Huasteca Serrano Tampiqueno Shi★★★★o Sweet Pickle Takamatsume Tolli's Sweet West Allis 1/2 Sharp Wisconsin Lakes Yatsufusa Zavory Zolotoy Dozhd[/QUOTE] |
I noticed that several people are growing Ajvarski Sweet, which I had never heard of. A quick check showed that the supplier is Baker Creek and the description they give is vague, we know that it is from Macedonia, a region, along with Bulgaria know for some of the best thick skinned roasting peppers.
I have some familiarity with region and was curious as to what this pepper could be. Ajvar refers to the relish made fro roasted peppers and many varieties are used for that purpose. The most popular is Kurtovska Kapija and is identical to Baker Creek's Ajvarski Sweet. The reason I mention this is that we get so many peppers and tomatoes that are the same but have been re-labeled, not a big deal, but it is nice to know what variety you are actually growing and what it is called. Alex |
I'm growing:
Carolina Reaper 7 Pot Primo Baron (F1) Ancho Jedi (F1) Jalapeno Crunch Sweet Orange Mighty Minis Carmen (F1) Ajvarski Banana (sweet) Going to try growing a lot of them in buckets/bags this year and use my rows for more profitable crops. |
[QUOTE=roper2008;680325]
I like your list, all useable peppers. [/QUOTE] That's me, Mrs Practical. :D It was difficult to narrow it down. I know at least a few varieties are similar but don't quite trust my germination and production skills enough yet so the list grew. There are enough varieties that we should really be able to expand our pepper horizons even more than last year. If they germinate. ::drumming fingers...:: [QUOTE=Salsacharley;680433]Beautiful list!![/QUOTE] Thank you! A lot of repeats from last year and many from the MMMM and trades. If they'll go for me I'll save lots of seeds to share :yes: Alex, Baker Creek was my source for Ajvarski; this will be the 3rd year growing it. I think you're right about all the re-labelling that goes on - even innocent (:?!?:) re-labelling, such as "so-and-so's [name of country] Red", when the variety obviously already had a name from wherever it was from. There must be so many duplicate varieties! |
I'm growing three:
Jimmy Nordello Elephant Ear Fresno My husband is getting to where he can't handle the spicy ones anymore😔 |
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