Oh, yeah...and the gardening websites...
 

[FONT=Comic Sans MS][SIZE=2][COLOR=seagreen]Oh, yeah...and *all* the gardening websites that you can find. Maybe even make a list of them that you know of and possibly some of the members here can find some more for you. (Not that you do not already have a lot of work ahead of you...LOL!) Maybe we can help somewhat. Giving them all the links to your website. [/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT]
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[FONT=Comic Sans MS][SIZE=2][COLOR=seagreen]Luther Burbank did not keep the records of all that he did or maybe he did not want to share it all, but this info can save many, many lives. The seeds are not worth anything if not planted, right? (I have to tell myself that very same thing, as I have [U]quite a few[/U] unplanted seeds of my own....) ;) [/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT]

Tom, we don't know each other at all, but I would like to make the offer to help on a website if you need it and if it is within (or close to within) my abilities. I am not up on some of the latest languages, but am self taught in HTML, having created a few web pages back when i sold books and depression glass.

If you could use something simple like this:

[url]http://pigeonalley2.tripod.com/pigeonalley2-mall-p1-index.html[/url]

it is woefully out of date, but the boxes for descriptions can be any sized and order, pictures, and such.....

BTW, anyone who would want to copy the Santa's or other holiday images, feel free to do so- they make good gift tags printed out.

Or as a proof reader, or what ever.

Where is Tom now?

I am around, helping my webmaster with some details to put in a on-line catalog of potato and tomato varieties and having him help me put together a newsletter and list serve mechanism for sending out those when requested. I have been sending my selected photos to him as well via a flash drive. The phplist is the world's most popular [B]open source email campaign manager[/B].

I am busy trying to come up with names for potato clones but even more for tomatoes that never had a name..just numbers and pedigree info. I have been naming about a hundred or so a day, trying to include descriptions for each and I am amazed how much time that takes.

I get distracted easily, phone calls, national and international visitors either calling, stopping by or leaving emails that need my attention. Had visitors from Belgium today and named a potato for the grand father. I gave him a coin sized tuber that he might try to take back with him.

Since this is the potato forum, soon you will get to see more of what I have been up to....Uh, oh, my webmaster chimed in on Skype...gotta go, messages says he fixed a broken link.

Tom

beautiful news Tom!
we waith for your work happily!

[QUOTE]"'October Blue' is by far our best-yielding potato variety."[/QUOTE]

That was a quote from Carol Deppe's book called, 'The Resilient Gardener' is but one reason why varieties created from True Potato Seeds have, and will continue to be, been among best-yielding potato varieties.

Sorting TPS to list

Tom Wagner

That is good news! Soon we will have many TPS lines to choose from... now the question is: what to grow next? potatoes for tropical weather resistance, drought tolerance, good flavor, high protein, nutritional value, color... too many to choose. Ol' white russet baking spud in not making the list this year. I might be dropping all blue and yukon gold too... i am seeing those more often in the groceries stores.

Waiting for the site.

[quote=yummy beans;194903]Hi tom I just joined . Darwin said you have potato seeds. Thought I wrote other email to you but then darwin wrote back.[/quote]I bought TPS from Tom's new site which is described (and linked?) here and in General Discussion and Seed Sources, and expect to receive them next week, and sow (along with Wendy's TPS) in March.

Here are a couple pictures of two varieties of TPS I'm growing of Tom's. The first picture is of "Skagit Magic" and the second picture is of "La Pan". I've started these in a tray with ten seeds per cell I then transplanted them to a 72 cell tray, one start per cell.

Tetra Cotyledons from Suyta Vilquina TPS.
 

Here is a link to a web-album showing pictures of my seedlings of Tom Wagner's "Suytu Vilquina" TPS. I'm not sure if these seedlings qualify technically as tetra cotyledons but I would be interested in other's opinions.
Here is the link to the web album of photos:
[URL="https://picasaweb.google.com/hopkinsphotography/SuytaVilquinaTPSPotatoSeedlingTetraCotyledons?feat=directlink"]https://picasaweb.google.com/hopkinsphotography/SuytaVilquinaTPSPotatoSeedlingTetraCotyledons?feat=directlink[/URL]

Great shots for so up close!

I explained my take on the mutiple cotyledons on my forum. Make sure the spelling is Suytu rather than Suyta....Suytu means long in the post Inca language.

Here is a photo of a TPS seedling of a variety that I purchased from Tom's web-site named "Suytu Vilquina". I will repot them tomorrow into a 72 cell tray and let them get bigger until a final planting in the garden or a container.

Tom will be down today to show me 'proper' crossing techniques. So should have some neat crosses. I already have 29 berries in my own patch, growing rapidly!

I have never planted potatoes before, but am interested in growing them if I can find additional space. I have been reading several threads about TPS, but I am still a little confused.

Post #10 of this thread does a very good job of describing the benefits of TPS vs. seed potatoes. My initial thought was that I would be able to start potato plants from seed, save seed from the plants I grow so I have seed for the following season (like tomatoes).

However, post #17 of this thread talks about using TPS to start plants to generate seed potatoes that can be planted.

Can someone clear up my confusion? When using TPS can a person continually save seed and replant the seed in future years (and get a crop of a stabilized potato) or is the seed for the purpose of starting a seed potato that then can be saved from year to year?

I will try...

[QUOTE] My initial thought was that I would be able to start potato plants from seed, save seed from the plants I grow so I have seed for the following season (like tomatoes).[/QUOTE]

You can plant true seed (TPS) and get more berries with TPS to save. I have done that BUT they are more like hybrid tomatoes seeds because the true potato seed have diversity in the genes. If you plant TPS seeds, all the plants are not identical. You can end up with different color tubers!

[QUOTE]TPS to start plants to generate seed potatoes that can be planted[/QUOTE]

The potato plant grown from TPS will develop potatoes and you can replant those the next year but again you will get diverse potatoes and you will need to select those you like to replant.


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Can someone clear up my confusion? When using TPS can a person continually save seed and replant the seed in future years (and get a crop of a stabilized potato) or is the seed for the purpose of starting a seed potato that then can be saved from year to year?
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Stabilized potato? TPS gives you new varieties of potato. You have to select those you like and continue to plant via vegetative cloning by planting a tuber etc and saving them each year. But the TPS has the information locked in so you could replant few years later and refresh those you like.

Did I make you more confused?:))

[QUOTE=wmontanez;234910]I will try...



You can plant true seed (TPS) and get more berries with TPS to save. I have done that BUT they are more like hybrid tomatoes seeds because the true potato seed have diversity in the genes. If you plant TPS seeds, all the plants are not identical. You can end up with different color tubers!



The potato plant grown from TPS will develop potatoes and you can replant those the next year but again you will get diverse potatoes and you will need to select those you like to replant.




Stabilized potato? TPS gives you new varieties of potato. You have to select those you like and continue to plant via vegetative cloning by planting a tuber etc and saving them each year. But the TPS has the information locked in so you could replant few years later and refresh those you like.

Did I make you more confused?:))[/QUOTE]

Thanks! That clears up the confusion I had regarding TPS.

I sowed some TPS, but they never develped a tuber. What is the secret? When do you start them?

[QUOTE=flutterby;235282]I sowed some TPS, but they never develped a tuber. What is the secret? When do you start them?[/QUOTE]
How long did they grow for??

They are still alive and growing, since earlier in the year.

[QUOTE=flutterby;235518]They are still alive and growing, since earlier in the year.[/QUOTE]
I also have some potato plants from TPS, from Durgan, wmontanez and Tom. They were probably sown too late (in May), and only one from Tom shows decent leaves and has probably tuberized. The others need to be overwintered indoors to grow better next year. I think you shall treat them like tomatoes.

Well, it's 'bout time I drop in again. I planted several of Tom's potato seed. But, unfortunately, we experienced the highest recorded temps ever recorded during 30 days, anywhere in the continental USA. My poor seedlings languished and died. I plan on trying again in the coming year. Just thought I'd drop in and report.

George
Tahlequah, OK

That's a shame for ya George :(what sort of temps were you getting??

Richard

We stayed above 90 F during the nights and went above 100 F (sometimes as high as 115 F) during the day time. For close to two months we received no rain. I had trees die due to these conditions and our sweet potatoes, in spite of my attempts to irrigate them, flopped. Regular potatoes, planted early, didn't thrive, but they did produce. But those I transplanted out as seedlings didn't stand a chance.

George

wow, man thats hot :shock:

That's too bad. Please try again. I discovered 2 awesome new potatoes that was from Open pollinated TPS from some of Tom's varieties. I will give it some cool name with Tom's suggestions next year. This year some produced TPS so it should be fun to try again few seeds to see what I end up with. Mine did poorly this year also but probably because I planted in pots. Next time will be in the ground.

what is the current price of your sampler? jon

Wendy,

I finally had one very small tuber form and put it out in the garden, in a raised bed. it might have been too soon. I will check on it and see. I could bring it back in and then put it in a pot on the windowsill and then bring it back to the garden once the weather turns warm or in early spring.

It has been rather warm this winter, that is why it is out there now, as I am thinking that it might have a head start if I leave it in there. Since I do not have 2 tubers and just bring in one, maybe I should just bring it indoors. I am thinking of also potting up some other tubers early instead of waiting until March or April. When do you put yours outside?


Evelyn

Evelyn,
Because of winter I plant the tubers in early May but this year it has been very warm. I had tubers stay in soiless media in the refrigerator crisper for 4 weeks to break their dormancy and once planted they sprout in few days. I have some in pots right now because of their short dormancy that even want to put flowers go figure. So if you have the space and light why not. See my post about Moie-moie since there are pictures of the plants growing. It is possible to grow tubers indoors under light which gave me an idea to actually on purpose start a potato or TPS seedling in a pot in August to harvest for Thanksgiving or Christmas.

[QUOTE=wmontanez;252608]It is possible to grow tubers indoors under light which gave me an idea to actually on purpose start a potato or TPS seedling in a pot in August to harvest for Thanksgiving or Christmas.[/QUOTE]
Maybe it would be best to see something from Tom on this one, because he actually lived in California once (and of course knows most about potatoes).