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Rajun Gardener December 8, 2017 07:25 PM

You should have plenty of time to get two maybe three different varieties growing. When you find out which corn you're gonna grow, stagger the planting by one month between the maturity dates and you should be good.

Here's an example. usually corn starts flowering 3 weeks before the harvest time so a 78 day corn should start flowering at 57 days. Do the math on the others and plant so they don't flower at the same time.

I wouldn't do this every year but once to find out what type of corn you like and then you can plant every 2 weeks to get a continuous harvest all season.

imp December 8, 2017 08:31 PM

Since we were only gardening, not trying to produce enough to sell, we planted in 8 foot by 8 foot blocks and got excellent production. Very good, LOL, so it was good Mirai would hold up to 7 days in the fridge. We did share some, but it was so good we ate corn at just about every meal.

clkeiper December 9, 2017 07:18 AM

wow.... marai corn the seeds and such catalog is way more expensive than paydirt at 25.00 a pound. paydirt is a bargain comparatively. it is very confusing to buy seeds and compare prices when you are comparing seed count to weight. the marai in the seedsnsuch appears to be about 52.00 a pound (3200 seeds). that is a lot of money to buy 1# of seed. You need to know exactly how many seeds you are planting in each row x the # of rows to purchase by count. unless you have a precision planter ( which ideally spaces the seed at 9" apart) that you invested thousands of dollars in that is not a very accurate way to estimate the amount of seed you need. earthway planters don't plant seeds that accurately, for the home gardener it isn't as important. thinning isn't an acres or more worth of corn to go through.

Barbee December 9, 2017 09:16 AM

[QUOTE=FarmerShawn;674109]Liked Ambrosia, Luscious, Gotta Have It, and Incredible, but for three years now Honey Select has been our favorite.


Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk[/QUOTE]

I will put Honey Select on the list for next year.

Worth1 December 9, 2017 09:26 AM

Anyone grow the old heirloom varieties (SU) types and best place to get them.
I prefer the old time flavor over the modern super sweet hybrids.
Worth

Rajun Gardener December 9, 2017 09:49 AM

These are old hybrids but they are SU. Lochief and G90.

[url]https://www.ufseeds.com/product/iochief-corn-seed/[/url]

[url]https://www.ufseeds.com/product/sweet-g90-corn-seed/[/url]


They also have Honey Select at a better price than post above.
[url]https://www.ufseeds.com/product/honey-select-sweet-corn-seed/[/url]

imp December 9, 2017 11:07 AM

[QUOTE=clkeiper;674241]wow.... marai corn the seeds and such catalog is way more expensive than paydirt at 25.00 a pound. paydirt is a bargain comparatively. it is very confusing to buy seeds and compare prices when you are comparing seed count to weight. the marai in the seedsnsuch appears to be about 52.00 a pound (3200 seeds). that is a lot of money to buy 1# of seed. You need to know exactly how many seeds you are planting in each row x the # of rows to purchase by count. unless you have a precision planter ( which ideally spaces the seed at 9" apart) that you invested thousands of dollars in that is not a very accurate way to estimate the amount of seed you need. earthway planters don't plant seeds that accurately, for the home gardener it isn't as important. thinning isn't an acres or more worth of corn to go through.[/QUOTE]

I get my Mirai seed through Harris seeds. There is also Twin Farms, you could contact them for a bulk seed sale price.

I'm just planting by hand, LOL, so no thinning.

HudsonValley December 9, 2017 01:59 PM

[QUOTE=Worth1;674250]Anyone grow the old heirloom varieties (SU) types and best place to get them.
I prefer the old time flavor over the modern super sweet hybrids.
Worth[/QUOTE]

Have a look at Victory Seeds' website: [url]http://www.victoryseeds.com/Corn_c_339-1-3.html[/url]

Cole_Robbie December 9, 2017 02:15 PM

Has anyone grown Oaxacan Green? I have not tried it, but it looks intriguing. I am surprised that there are not green corn chips and tortillas being marketed.
[IMG]https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/LoEAAOSwHQ9WZ8Dr/s-l300.jpg[/IMG]

Worth1 December 9, 2017 02:37 PM

[QUOTE=Cole_Robbie;674291]Has anyone grown Oaxacan Green? I have not tried it, but it looks intriguing. I am surprised that there are not green corn chips and tortillas being marketed.
[IMG]https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/LoEAAOSwHQ9WZ8Dr/s-l300.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]

An American corn chip like Frito's a little maybe but not a tortilla.
Due to the process of removing the outside skin it would not be green anymore.
Many of the red and blue corn tortilla chips I see are colored/dyed but not all.

I have always wanted to grow many of these old Mexican varieties.

Worth1 December 9, 2017 02:49 PM

Almost positive Golden Bantam was the corn I bought and invaded my mom and dads garden with one year.:twisted:
Worth

Cole_Robbie December 9, 2017 04:20 PM

I grew a red sweet corn one year, at least it was red until I boiled it. Then I had white corn and red water.

Rajun Gardener December 9, 2017 06:47 PM

[QUOTE=Worth1;674296]Almost positive Golden Bantam was the corn I bought and invaded my mom and dads garden with one year.:twisted:
Worth[/QUOTE]


I forgot about that one. Corn is so confusing, too many choices and how to know if you'll like it. Peaches and Cream is awesome for cream style corn, all it takes is a little blanching for storage. We in La eat [URL="http://www.realcajuncooking.com/2006/06/maque-chou.html"]corn maque choux[/URL] and you can't make that with supersweet corn, It has too much sugar.

Worth1 December 9, 2017 07:22 PM

[QUOTE=Rajun Gardener;674315]I forgot about that one. Corn is so confusing, too many choices and how to know if you'll like it. Peaches and Cream is awesome for cream style corn, all it takes is a little blanching for storage. We in La eat [URL="http://www.realcajuncooking.com/2006/06/maque-chou.html"]corn maque choux[/URL] and you can't make that with supersweet corn, It has too much sugar.[/QUOTE]

Ate a lot of that growing up never knew what it was called.:lol:

imp December 9, 2017 09:50 PM

[QUOTE=Cole_Robbie;674307]I grew a red sweet corn one year, at least it was red until I boiled it. Then I had white corn and red water.[/QUOTE]


If you like unusual colors in your corn, try Baker Creek. Many colors, including Glass Gem, but oranges, reds, blue, the green corn you posted a picture of, pinks....

[URL]https://www.rareseeds.com/store/vegetables/corn/[/URL]

[IMG]https://www.rareseeds.com/atomic-orange-corn/[/IMG][IMG]https://www.rareseeds.com/papa-s-red-corn/[/IMG]
[IMG]https://www.rareseeds.com/papa-s-red-corn/[/IMG]

Worth1 December 11, 2017 08:46 AM

[QUOTE=Rajun Gardener;674315]I forgot about that one. Corn is so confusing, too many choices and how to know if you'll like it. Peaches and Cream is awesome for cream style corn, all it takes is a little blanching for storage. We in La eat [URL="http://www.realcajuncooking.com/2006/06/maque-chou.html"]corn maque choux[/URL] and you can't make that with supersweet corn, It has too much sugar.[/QUOTE]
Corn/maize is one of my favorite vegetables of historic study the other chilies.
And the only one I know of that doesn't have any wild living relative that even comes close to looking like it but types of teosinte/Zea.
Many of which are endangered.
[url]https://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/25/science/25creature.html[/url]
[url]http://www.pnas.org/content/99/9/6080.long[/url]

It truly is one of the (if not the) biggest food mysteries known to man.

Tormato December 13, 2017 01:00 PM

[QUOTE=Cole_Robbie;674291]Has anyone grown Oaxacan Green? I have not tried it, but it looks intriguing. I am surprised that there are not green corn chips and tortillas being marketed.
[IMG]https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/LoEAAOSwHQ9WZ8Dr/s-l300.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]

I'm working on a sweet version of Oaxacan Green dent corn.

Tormato December 13, 2017 01:02 PM

For some of the new hybrid corns having the shrunken genes, you do need to isolate them. Otherwise, they will be tough eating.

Tormato December 13, 2017 01:06 PM

[QUOTE=Spike2;674188]LOL okay that tickles me! Tormato the corn snob!! I am gonna have to try this kind![/QUOTE]


That should be Kandy Korn.

Candy Corn is the Halloween treat, of which I am not a candy snob, so long as it doesn't contain coconut.

greenthumbomaha December 13, 2017 10:08 PM

[QUOTE=Worth1;674465]Corn/maize is one of my favorite vegetables of historic study the other chilies.
And the only one I know of that doesn't have any wild living relative that even comes close to looking like it but types of teosinte/Zea.
Many of which are endangered.
[url]https://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/25/science/25creature.html[/url]
[url]http://www.pnas.org/content/99/9/6080.long[/url]

It truly is one of the (if not the) biggest food mysteries known to man.[/QUOTE]

Worth, google native Nebraska corn. There are several efforts underway that are spearheaded from local Native American tribes to preserve endangered corn species. I heard 90 percent of original varieties are gone forever.

Most of the corn grown here is for ethanol industrial uses and cattle feed. As for sweet corn, I got corn smut two years in a row and gave up.A customer drops a cart of sweet corn every year at my gas station for free give out. It was the best I have ever had but the cashiers never asked the variety. I will have to make a nice fuss over it and maybe they will remember to ask next year.

- Lisa

greenthumbomaha December 13, 2017 10:27 PM

[QUOTE=Tormato;674646]I'm working on a sweet version of Oaxacan Green dent corn.[/QUOTE]

I've viewed heirloom corns at lectures but never a green in my area. That is a very vibrant coloration compared to various muted colors of black muddy greens and greys and indian blanket orange and brown tones that I have seen.

Does the green impart a unique flavor?

- Lisa

clkeiper December 13, 2017 11:10 PM

[QUOTE=greenthumbomaha;674693]

..... As for sweet corn, I got corn smut two years in a row and gave up.A customer drops a cart of sweet corn every year at my gas station for free give out. It was the best I have ever had but the cashiers never asked the variety. I will have to make a nice fuss over it and maybe they will remember to ask next year.

- Lisa[/QUOTE]
if this is a grain farmer most of them around here get 5#'s of Incredible from their seed supplier every year for a "gift" for buying seed corn. so, many of them plant it along the front end of their field. 5#'s o sweet corn seed is a lot of seed, but it is probably the minimum quantity for a planter the size they use.

GoDawgs March 2, 2018 10:08 AM

I don't see many Southern posts on this thread other than one Cajun and a couple of Texans so I'll add mine. :lol:

I grow mainly Silver Queen. It's been really consistent, holds well in the freezer and does better than other varieties for me in this area. For a few years I did grow some early corn that germinates OK in cooler soil in an effort to get a jump on the season. That was Quickie one year and Spring Treat Yellow another year, both about 65 days to harvest and planted about 4 weeks before the 85 day Silver Queen.

The problem was that they drew coons into the garden! Before trying these early corns I'd had only rare coon visits. The closest other corn I know of is a dairy guy 4 miles away who grows corn for silage and he plants early. I got to thinking that maybe the coons came to mine because it was the only game in town since the dairy guy's wasn't ready yet. Since I quit growing the early corn I'm back to no coon problems. :yes:

berryman March 2, 2018 04:10 PM

I grow flint corn each year and cook with it all winter. Much less fussy than the sweet corn.

Hatgirl March 2, 2018 05:08 PM

Growing corn in Ireland is a challenge, to put it mildly, but I finally managed it last year! I chose the supersweet early variety Earlibird. I grew it in modules indoors until the last week of May, then planted it in the most sunny, sheltered spot I had. Once the pollen appeared I would manually pollinate them whenever I was in the veg patch - literally hug a load of stems and gently wobble them. It worked! I had a corncob from every plant in September!
I have a bunch of other early supersweets to try this year

PhilaGardener March 2, 2018 06:42 PM

I grew Stowell's Evergreen last year and it was amazingly good! :yes:


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