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KarenO November 1, 2015 01:31 PM

Blooming at day 48 from sowing. Right on schedule as far as I was hoping! That is fantastic Marsha and they are huge already for such young plants! Fantastic! yay! wonderful! Can you tell I'm excited? :)
Hard to tell how many blooms per truss? are the blooms smallish like a cherry size? looks like it to me but hard to tell for sure from the photo.
Karen
I am really hoping for pink cherries for some reason... maybe just to confirm the cross before the F2
Is that a coconut on the ground ?! If so it really shows how different it is from here to there :)

ginger2778 November 1, 2015 01:50 PM

Yes, I can see you are excited. Meeeee toooooo! And yes, that is a coconut, my dog Ella dragged it from the tree in our backyard. She loves to shred them, and other things too, unfortunately!
I cant tell yet how many flowers on the truss, but I'll try to get better pictures once the trusses develope more. Pink cherries. That is what we are hoping to see. I am hoping there is great taste too. Remember, AG might not be totally stable......

carolyn137 November 1, 2015 02:02 PM

[QUOTE=ginger2778;511474]Here are my 2 strong and healthy plants, with blossoms, which I just buzzed with my electric toothbrush. Heee![/QUOTE]

Noting the mention of toothbrush, now that you are retired does the ADA provide you with dental products of all kinds, and of course gratis?;):lol:

Carolyn

KarenO November 1, 2015 02:06 PM

I am looking for differences from mama plant ambrosia gold to confirm the cross for certain. The leaves look different to me and the trusses on mama were nice straight trusses with about 10-14 cherries lined up nicely. so far these two look different which is good but it's too early to tell just from the first few blooms. time will tell. the ripe fruit on mama were the dark gold of sungold when ripe. not yellow, not orange but gold. I know you know the colour I mean and even with a cross they could still turn out that colour which is fine but a different colour will show the cross for sure in the F1. so happy with how they are looking! Great work partner!

KO

ginger2778 November 1, 2015 03:24 PM

[QUOTE=KarenO;511493]I am looking for differences from mama plant ambrosia gold to confirm the cross for certain. The leaves look different to me and the trusses on mama were nice straight trusses with about 10-14 cherries lined up nicely. so far these two look different which is good but it's too early to tell just from the first few blooms. time will tell. the ripe fruit on mama were the dark gold of sungold when ripe. not yellow, not orange but gold. I know you know the colour I mean and even with a cross they could still turn out that colour which is fine but a different colour will show the cross for sure in the F1. so happy with how they are looking! Great work partner!

KO[/QUOTE]
Why thank you, it makes me feel good to see you so happy!i really did want you to feel comfortable choosing me for this.:)
I think your cross took, here's why. It is RL, but the foliage is thicker and more substance than AG, and there is absolutely none of that funky SunGold-y smell to the foliage. Way less suckering too. Thicker stems, more compact growth habit( so far !)

Barb_FL November 1, 2015 06:29 PM

Plants look really good and so early.

Gardeneer November 1, 2015 07:47 PM

So you have blooms now . Should get ripe fruits within 30 to 40 days and start another F series. and then you can get the next pick in May/June and start the next generation.
Interesting colaboration between the North and the South. Good luck !

Gardeneer

ginger2778 November 1, 2015 08:06 PM

[QUOTE=Gardeneer;511568]So you have blooms now . Should get ripe fruits within 30 to 40 days and start another F series. and then you can get the next pick in May/June and start the next generation.
Interesting colaboration between the North and the South. Good luck !

Gardeneer[/QUOTE]
I think Karen wants to make the F2 selections. There is no rush, she wants to take her time. I know she will be selecting PL. But who knows what else. Great idea though. I like it!

KarenO November 1, 2015 09:24 PM

I really do want to grow out the first round of the F2 but we will make the selections together :)
Will just have to trust me on the flavour part. There can be other F2 grow outs as well but it's more fun to do another cross I think.
There's no rush, as it is this is twice as fast as I can do it on my own. I will start the F2 in March and then send back F3 seed from our selections in the summer. Patience is a virtue in most things. Including tomato breeding. Growouts done with 20 plants in a single pot under cover so the plants themselves are not even a factor in the selection and released unstable at F5 just are not my style, Marsha's either I am quite sure.
Karen

Fiishergurl November 2, 2015 01:06 AM

Marsha,

The plants look so healthy and beautiful!!

Looking forward to seeing more updates! Good luck to you both! !

Ginny

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ginger2778 November 2, 2015 06:15 AM

[QUOTE=KarenO;511598]I really do want to grow out the first round of the F2 but we will make the selections together :)
Will just have to trust me on the flavour part. There can be other F2 grow outs as well but it's more fun to do another cross I think.
There's no rush, as it is this is twice as fast as I can do it on my own. I will start the F2 in March and then send back F3 seed from our selections in the summer. Patience is a virtue in most things. Including tomato breeding. Growouts done with 20 plants in a single pot under cover so the plants themselves are not even a factor in the selection and released unstable at F5 just are not my style, Marsha's either I am quite sure.
Karen[/QUOTE]
The F3s are where I am going to be in close contact with you Karen, your guidance will be very needed. I find this exciting because of how much I will learn, as well as the creative aspect.:)
Karen, did you notice the second flower truss forming on the plant in the second photo? Heee!

KarenO November 2, 2015 12:29 PM

Everything you are doing looks perfect to me Marsha, and I am excited for the next update. Thank you so much for doing this with me. Gives me such pleasure to see them growing so well in your garden when mine has been put to bed for the long winter up here.
GO KARMA!
Karen

ginger2778 November 6, 2015 02:14 PM

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Hey hey hey! We have fruits forming. Also, flowers per truss seem to be from 6-8. Cranking along. Hee hee! This first one is just showing health of the plant and an opening truss.

ginger2778 November 6, 2015 02:16 PM

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This one shows a fruit forming on same plant as above.

ginger2778 November 6, 2015 02:18 PM

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Last one - fruit and whole truss, with general whole plant in perspective. The truss shows eight, and is in the center. You have to look carefully, the fruit is lined up by the round cage ring.


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