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hl2601 September 15, 2021 12:00 PM

Kozulas
 
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Some folks may know, but I am trying to collect and try out as many of the tomatoes that female Polish Breeder Anna Kozula created.

Thank you to people who sent seeds to MMMM. Gary did a great job as usual. I am always on the lookout for more :)

Information about the crosses, pictures and the seeds are somewhat difficult to find. Just thought others may want to see what the 5 varieties I grew this year looked like. All were true to the descriptions I located.

If anyone has any information about this breeder or sources they have used to obtain her work I would definitely be interested. These were sure fun to grow, compare and contrast.
Heide

ddsack September 15, 2021 03:03 PM

Heide, very interested to know you are growing these out now. I have a lot of admiration for the lady that created them. She seemed to be ahead of her time. There was a lot of interest in her work about ?10 years ago and more of her seeds being traded. I was never sure if all of them were supposed to be stable. I have Kozula 127, 128 and 136, but have never grown them out, and the seeds are 7 years old. Thanks for posting the pictures, I should put the Kozulas on my grow list for next year. How was the flavor on 136?

KarenO September 15, 2021 04:29 PM

Kozula was her screen name on European garden forums rather like this one.
Her real name is Anna Jankowski and she was a market gardener and beeeder in Poland.
Many of her tomatoes were released unstable and quickly snapped up by other amateur breeders some more honest than others.
I think she did a lot of interesting crosses and I also think a number of tomatoes have been released under other names by amateur breeders that originated from these without any credit to their origins.
I guess she probably knew that would happen when she sent them out unstable though.
I am interested in her work and wish I had space to grow some. I do have some seeds of some in my collection I may grow someday.
Heide, if there are specific ones you are looking for I may have some or may know where you can find them
KarenO

hl2601 September 18, 2021 08:58 PM

@KarenO Thank you so much for your info and clarifications. I admire how many crosses she did and just want to explore them, so there is not any specific one I am looking for. I hope she did anticipate some may use her unstable crosses....
Through my grow outs I hope to bring more visibility to her work, save seeds and spread them around a bit. I guess I was lucky all five of the ones I grew this year were true to the descriptions!

dorota September 19, 2021 08:10 PM

Heide, your Kozulas are beautiful. :)

When Kozula made her crosses she was a member and a moderator of one of the Polish gardening forums. In November 2009 she had sent all her seeds to one of the forum members, to send the seeds to people who wanted to grow her tomatoes and select them. From this moment seeds were exchanged during forum swaps and nobody organized or coordinated the process of selection. Until now, those seeds are circulating between gardening forums members, some of them are sold by Polish and foreign online shops. After years some of those varieties disapeared, some of them do not have one "propper" version. There may be problems with accidental crossings too. But I love Kozulas, this year I had K/10, K/113 and no-K/141 (pink beefsteak, instead of red-yellow zebra).

Two years ago some of my forum members looked for seeds with low F numbers and started selection from the beginning.
Here is a link to Kozula's post containg first list of her crosses and her information about parent varieties. Numbers 1-11 she gave tomato varieties, they are not her crosses. Kozula's crosses start from number 12.

[url]https://forumogrodnicze.info/viewtopic.php?f=42&t=30312&start=0[/url]

Full list of Kozula's crosses :
[url]http://forumogrodniczeoaza.pl/index.php/forum/5-warzywnik/126745-pomidory-krzyzowki-ani-kozuli[/url]

Wi-sunflower September 21, 2021 08:15 AM

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I have several of her varieties I got back then from seeds I got from Dean. 9 of them are listed here on my web site. [url]http://knapps-fresh-vegies.com/A.html[/url]

Here is my save as a pdf of the thread on a now defunct forum about the various varieties back then. I would be open to trades as I was also very interested in these special varieties.

Carol

KarenO September 21, 2021 10:41 AM

Like I said.
KarenO

hl2601 September 21, 2021 07:10 PM

@Dorota-Thanks so much for the information and the link to the forum. i did not know of its existence. i have lots of happy reading to do through Google translate and I will surely find out much info!

@wi-sunflower thanks for sharing. I will DM you. Do you know if GunnarSK is still active?

deltoro March 4, 2023 09:44 AM

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My Kozulas from last year, K13 and K15 in low F2 version - both varieties will be with me this season as well as their F3 versions.
In addition to them, this season I will have K12 F2 and K14 F2 megagron. Both varieties are cherry. The latter is a cherry of the multiflora type - an abundance of fruit in a cluster.

Below are photos from the early cultivation - I don't have any later photos.

K13_F2 - nice cherry variety, small fruit, tasty and crunchy, oblong cluster in the upper parts separating into 2 or 3
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K15_F2 - cherry variety with larger fruits than K13, the rest as K13
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Andrey_BY March 6, 2023 08:49 AM

I'm trying Kozula 179 (Zebra Zolta) this year.

hl2601 March 6, 2023 07:38 PM

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Hi all-glad to see others Kozula grow plans! Here are pics from my last season's haul.
Heide

KarenO March 6, 2023 09:44 PM

Which was the best you’ve grown so far Heidi?
KarenO

Barb_FL March 7, 2023 12:44 AM

I didn't realize the post was 2 years old. Your photos are beautiful.

Did you grow out those original ones again last season or just the ones in the more recent picture?

kenny_j March 7, 2023 11:10 AM

Beautiful fruit Heidi. I will be growing #25 this year, that I got in MMMM. I also am interested in your opinion of flavor. I love bold and balanced for flavor, Brandywine Cowlicks type flavor. Sungold best tomato ever, but never seen a large tomato have that bold of a taste. Growing a lot of hearts this year, for possible paste, and the wife loves mild and sweet. Growing several of Karen O's also this year. Midnight sun one. Taiga. Wish the warm weather would arrive sooner!!!

hl2601 March 12, 2023 12:15 PM

@KarenO- I think my favorites so far are Kozula 136 (unreal production with lovely bi colored fruit),Kozula 25 and last year's 186. How could I choose just one? :)

@Barb_FL thanks about my pics. The first set of pics was from 2021, and the second set was last year. I am trying to fit in 4-5 each season.

@Andrey_BY I grew K179 last year but didn't get great results, most probably because it had a terrible garden position. I didn't feel fruit was representative so I didn't photograph it. I hope you will post your results with a pic. I don't know how much you know about this one but after lots of Kozula research, here are my notes from as many sources as I could find-if they could help you.

KOZULA 179-Zebra Zolta -(yellow zebra ) Mid Ind RL tall 7-11 oz Large striped yellow-orange fruits more often green, weigh about 300-500 gr. Beefsteak type, round fruits with slightly flattened and ribbed and rounded shoulders. Flesh greenish-yellow with greenish gel. Mild flavor with a touch of acidity. full flavored fleshy fruity aftertaste, a bush with quite little foliage, RL leaves, had little fruit, but large ones - each around 500 grams and more. The fruit is quite hard, fleshy, strongly yellow in color and green jelly.


@kenny_j-glad to hear you are growing K25. Seeds were most likely from me. It was a good tomato. Brightly flavored, but not at all like Sungold which I think just is not duplicatable. I had really good production with this one too, and loved the colors at the cut.

Yak54 March 12, 2023 05:47 PM

Wow ! There are some very interesting crosses here. Does anyone know if any of these are getting close to being stabilized ?

Dan

Andrey_BY March 27, 2023 04:43 AM

Remember this early thread about Kozula from Gunnar from the web-source I can't save the link here:

Jul 8, 2010 at 1:13am
The best known (to me anyway) breeder of tomatoes in Poland is Anna Kozula from the Southeast, who has been producing her own varieties for five years, although she started out as a typical market grower with stable varieties.
In her own words, she chanced into breeding, when a friend of hers brought a tomato from abroad, which was of an "amateur" variety, but tasty, beautyful and productive enough to warrant a market "experiment". There were 3 seedlings, from which seeds were taken, for this was thought to be a stable variety. 4 polytunnels were planted, but .... total disaster. A strange mix of tomatoes with different shapes, including determinates and dwarves. In spite of the look most of the tomatoes were sold, because they found buyers for their flavour. She decided to improve them by crossing and selection, and that has been going on for 5 years now with significant improvement of the result.
Now she has become a master of crossing, and her seeds were distributed to many different people, including me.
Her market growing is different from everyone else's, because each plant is different (unique).

The master list including all tomato seeds that were distributed for free this year:

(non-Polish varieties used in crossings and distributed after grow out)
1. Amish Salad , red heart
2. Black from Tula , black with plenty of flesh
3. Black Krim , black, naturally salty
4. Black Japanese Trifele , black, non-cracking
5. Black Zebra , avoid too much nitrogen in fertilizer because of bad taste
6. Big Zebra
7. Copia , yellow with red stripes,fruity taste
8. Cherokee Purple , black with plenty of flesh
9. Grightmires Pride , pink heart with short internodes for this type
10. Kalman, fruit oblong, long internodes, suscptible to dry rot, never tart
11. Purple Russian, black with oblong fruit

(cherries, cocktail tomatoes):
12. truskawkowy (seed from store bought F1)
13. Oblong fruit with "real" tomato taste
14. Huge trusses
15. truskawkowy x Dyno
16. truskawkowy x pink plum, indeterminate Ff (resistant against fungal brown leaf spot, fusarium)
17. truskawkowy x Purple Russian

(breeding lines)
From Pink Ff x Copia, all indeterminate:
18. yellow plum with pink nuances, sweet
19. yellow with pink stripes Ff
20. purple - chocolate Ff
21. red Ff
22. pink, weak stripes Ff
23. orange, weak stripes Ff
24. green-purple stripes, rather tart
25. green striped with pink nuances Ff
26. pink with green stripes, by full ripeness changing to yellow Ff
27. pink with yellow stripes Ff
28. pink with short yellow stripes Ff

From Big Zebra x Black Pear, indeterminate

29. pink with green stripes, by full ripeness changing to yellow, strong colour
30. yellow with red stripes

From Black Zebra x Orange Strawberry , indeterminate

31. red striped

From Steak Sandwich x Pink King

32. pink dwarf plum Ff, weak seedlings, big fruit
33. pink determinate Ff, strong foliage
34. pink determinate Ff
35. pink determinate Ff, strong colour
36. pink indeterminate Ff, round, productive, good consistency
37. pink indeterminate Ff, big fruit, flattened, remove double blooms

From pink Ff x Kalman

38. pink indeterminate Ff, oblong fruit


(Crosses, indeterminate)

39. Albenga x Beeforange, red or orange
40. Albenga x Big Zebra
41. Albenga x Black Zebra, red, mid size, productive
42. Albenga x pink round Ff
43. Albenga x pink flattened Ff
44. Amish Salad x pink flattened Ff, red or golden
45. Big Zebra x Orange Strawberry
46. Black Japanese Trifele x Black Zebra
47. pink round Ff x Anna Russian, pink, between heart and "ordinary"
48. Black Japanese Trifele x Cherokee Purple
49. Black Zebra x Big Zebra
50. Black Pear x Kalman, red, for poor locations, sensitive to excessive nitrogen
51. Black Pear x pink round Ff
52. Caspian Pink x Dyno
53. Caspian Pink x Kalman, pink
54. Caspian Pink x Pink King, pink
55. Cherokee Purple x Black Zebra
56. Cherokee Purple x pink round Ff
57. Cherokee Purple x pink flattened Ff
58. CLX 37 397 x pink flattened Ff, pink, there should be a small amount of gel
59. Copia x Beeforange, red or orange
60. Copia x Big Zebra , yellow striped
61. Copia x Black Zebra, red and green striped
62. Copia x Orange Strawberry
63. Costoluto Genovese x Big Zebra
64. Dyno x Bawole Serce from market,
65. Dyno x Big Zebra
66. Dyno x Copia
67. Dyno x pink flattened Ff
68. Dyno x Orange Strawberry , red, early, productive, tasty - disadvantage - long internodes
69. Faworyt x pink flattened Ff, pink
70. Faworyt x Pink King, pink
71. Grightmires Pride x pink flattened Ff, pink
72. Israeli Striped x Big Zebra
73. Israeli Striped x Black Zebra
74. Israeli Striped x pink flattened Ff
75. Kalman x Anna Russian, pink heart
76. Kosovo x pink flattened Ff, pink
77. Kosovo x Pink King, pink
78. Lnisno x Big Zebra, red, Lnisno is a pink heart
79. Lnisno x Copia, red
80. pink round Ff x Big Zebra, red
81. pink round Ff x Dyno, red
82. pink round Ff x Kalman, pink
83. Malinowy Warszawski x Pink King, pink
84. Orange Strawberry x Anna Russian, red heart
85. Orange Strawberry x Big zebra, red
86. Ożarowski Złoty x Orange Strawberry, yellow, productive, rather tart
87. Persimmon x Dyno, red
88. Persimmon x Orange Strawberry, yellow
89. Persimmon x Pink King , red
90. Purple Russian x Black Zebra, red
91. Purple Russian x Cherokee Purple, black
92. Purple Russian x Dyno, red, may be smokey towards "black"
93. Razzle Dazzle x Anna Russian, pink, Razzle Dazzle is very hard/firm
94. Razzle Dazzle x Dyno, red
95. Steak Sandwich x Anna Russian, pink
96. ( Beeforange Ff x Orange Straw.) x Big Zebra, probably orange heart

98. ( Dyno x Orange Straw.) x Bawole Serce from market
99. ( Dyno x Orange Straw.) x pink round Ff
100. Ożarowski Złoty x ( Beeforange Ff x Orange Straw.)
101. Big Zebra x Pink King, red
102. CLX 37397 x Copia, red
103. CLX 37397 x -pink Ff, pink
104. Kalman x Bawole Serce from market, pink heart shaped
105. pink determinate Ff x Anna Russian, pink, between heart shaped and "ordinary"


Two year old seeds (from 2008)

106. Bawole Serce from Plantico x Orange Strawberry, red heart
107. Bawole Serce from market x Orange Strawberry, red heart
108. Bawole Serce from market x Bawole Serce from Plantico, red or golden
109. Beeforange x Orange Strawberry, orange
110. DRK 7014 x Bawole Serce from market
111. DRK 7014 x Orange Strawberry
112. Dyno x Kalman, elongated fruit, golden, tasty
113. Kalman x Dyno - different look and taste than cross of the same parents reversed (female x male)
114. Orange Strawberry x Bawole Serce from Plantico, red heart
115. Orange Strawberry x Bawole Serce from market, red heart
116. Orange Strawberry x Pink King, red

Segregation and selection necessary:

117. (Black Zebra x Copia) F2 , red and green stripes, should be striped in different colours
118. (Dyno x Big Zebra) F2, this may be a striped plum, to get something interesting you have to grow at least 10 plants.

A "lost" one in the end:

119. pink determinate, early, tasty, from Steak Sandwich

Regards
Gunnar

Now there are more than 200 Kozulas.

deltoro March 27, 2023 05:24 AM

Links to Polish forums with kozulas lists

[url]https://forumogrodnicze.info/viewtopic.php?t=64458[/url]
[url]https://forumogrodniczeoaza.pl/index.php/forum/5-warzywnik/126745-pomidory-krzyzowki-ani-kozuli[/url]

hl2601 March 27, 2023 09:32 AM

Thanks Andrey and Deltoro for posting these lists and links!

To my knowledge, there are folks in Poland working on selecting out some older crosses, plus some of the newer ones too. There are many Kozula variants that were not stable, but were released years ago to members of their forum. I think there's still lots to discover.


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