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e.thad February 4, 2017 08:30 AM

Really Sweet Cherry Tomatoes
 
I've been doing some research on this site for the sweetest cherry tomato and have come up with a very short list of varieties. I'll be growing side by side with Sungold as a comparison. I'm looking for the the very sweetest. If there's a uniqueness in taste, all the better. I haven't grown a ton, but for me the only one that has tasted more than mildly sweet next to Sungold was Super Sweet 100. Boring but sweet. I also considered growing a Bumblebee, but not sure about it's sweetness. Perhaps someone who has grown it in the past can weigh in.

So I'm looking for suggestions.

Not looking for anything smaller than average size so currants are out. Everything else is fair game.

[U]List for 2017[/U]
[LIST=1][*]Nectar[*]Isis Candy[*]Ambrosia Orange UBX[*]Cream[/LIST]
Can't remember where I found Cream. According to the description, it's new.

[URL="https://store.tomatofest.com/Cream_Heirloom_Tomato_Seeds_p/tf-0127m.htm"]https://store.tomatofest.com/Cream_Heirloom_Tomato_Seeds_p/tf-0127m.htm[/URL]

I know this topic had been covered here before, but new varieties pop up every year.

TC_Manhattan February 5, 2017 05:34 PM

Is that [I]Cream[/I] tomato the same thing as [I]Amethyst Cream?[/I]

The photo and description in the link you provided looks and sounds the same.
I googled [I]Cream Cherry Tomato[/I] and nothing came up except recipes for cream and tomato soup or pasta.:twisted:

Labradors2 February 5, 2017 06:51 PM

Iva's Red Berry.

Linda

Worth1 February 5, 2017 07:20 PM

Wild Cherry AKA Matt's Wild Cherry you must grow at least once.
You wont be sorry.
Worth

RJGlew February 5, 2017 07:28 PM

Some good info in this page on sweet cherries, including Nectar.

[url]http://www.waynesthisandthat.com/tomatoes.htm[/url]

charline February 5, 2017 08:06 PM

Bianca, very very sweet !

maxjohnson February 5, 2017 08:12 PM

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So far I have given up on chasing after super sweet tomatoes, except continuing to grow Sungold.

I have grown Nectar for a while now, I would rate it so-so. The brix value is easily 9-10 during the hot months. I don't think it has a lasting complex taste, just plain sweet, maybe a bit honey-like hence the name. The fruit is thick skinned, can still cracks but much less than Black Cherry and Sungold.

It's easily the earliest producing variety that I grow. Not good for cages I realize, needs tall trellis and spread out a lot to be productive. And lots of sun. I don't find it to be very disease resilient like it's touted to be. Same tall and thin weak vine like SunSugar, which I'm not a fan of.

This year I am on F3, it turned grape shaped. With less sweetness and more acidity, and to me is a very good traditional tomato taste, also dense which I like. (see photo)

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The sweetest variety I'm aware of is Ambrosia Orange UBX, I've yet to have any success growing. I planted them in my nematode infested raised beds, they seems to be stunted and very small after two tries. I will give it another chance in containers.

Black Cherry is still my favorite tomato overall, most vigorous and productive plant I grow every year. It remains the sweetest tomato I've tasted, even sweeter than Sungold at sometimes, but also very acidic, which takes away from the impression of sweetness.

Matt Wild's Cherry have a very smooth and refined taste unexpected for a currant sized tomato, but the fruits are too small to satisfy my appetite.

AlittleSalt February 5, 2017 08:37 PM

I'm growing Sun Cherry Extra Sweet and Sun Sugar for the first time. I am thinking they will be sweet by their names. We'll see in a few months.

jmsieglaff February 5, 2017 08:47 PM

I have not personally grown Sweet Aperitif but I've read on threads here it is sweet and gets high marks. Maybe some that grow it will chime in.

Gardeneer February 5, 2017 08:52 PM

Finally I decide to settle on 4 cherry varieties.
Sun Gold
Esterina F2
Black Cherry
Indigo Cherry Drop
the last 3 will be the first time in my garden.

maxjohnson February 5, 2017 08:57 PM

[QUOTE=Gardeneer;616337]Finally I decide to settle on 4 cherry varieties.
Sun Gold
Esterina F2
Black Cherry
Indigo Cherry Drop
the last 3 will be the first time in my garden.[/QUOTE]
Black Cherry will be the best, I have high expectation of my seeds. Make sure you have a very big and tall trellis.

LindyAdele February 5, 2017 08:59 PM

I think so much depends on the garden...
I have grown the bumblebees, they are very good, but not as complex and powerful as sungold ( and not super sweet).

My sweetest is Snow White cherry. Ildi has come close, only when under stress ( low water and in a container). I hated Isis candy, it split like crazy, had a bland watery flavour and was kind of seedy. Black cherry is bland, all the reds and pinks I have tried are just " okay".

This year I am growing sunsugar, snow white, sweetie, black and pink bumblebees and maglia Rosa.

AlittleSalt February 5, 2017 09:17 PM

I forgot two - Super Sweet 100 and Sweet Million.

EDIT - There's also one called Sweetie - an OP. All the others I listed are F1s.

Worth1 February 5, 2017 09:24 PM

I often wonder what an artificial tomato flavor would taste like.
Nothing else tastes like the real thing.
Did you know the they have a vomit flavored jelly bean?:lol:

Worth

AlittleSalt February 5, 2017 09:37 PM

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Vomit flavored jelly beans?

Gardeneer February 6, 2017 02:11 AM

[QUOTE=maxjohnson;616340]Black Cherry will be the best, I have high expectation of my seeds. Make sure you have a very big and tall trellis.[/QUOTE]

Thanks Max.
I will have to remember this.

AlittleSalt February 6, 2017 02:24 AM

Black Cherry from TGS will not grow in my garden (.) And I really like TGS.

k3vin February 6, 2017 09:34 AM

I have a taste for intensely sweet cherry tomatoes too. For pure sweetness nothing beats currant tomatoes. So I always go 1 or 2 currants As far as cherries go last year I was pleasantly surprised with Japanese pink cherry. I wouldn't call it intensely sweet, but it's plenty sweet. What sets it apart is its resemblance to a bing cherry, both the mouth feel when you eat it and vaguely in its flavor too.

BigVanVader February 6, 2017 09:45 AM

Sweetest I have tasted were Blush and Sunrise Bumblebee.

e.thad February 6, 2017 09:47 AM

[QUOTE]Is that Cream tomato the same thing as Amethyst Cream?

The photo and description in the link you provided looks and sounds the same.
I googled Cream Cherry Tomato and nothing came up except recipes for cream and tomato soup or pasta.[/QUOTE]I'm wondering the same, but they seem to have a different backstory. Here [URL="http://tatianastomatobase.com/wiki/Amethyst_Cream_Cherry"]http://tatianastomatobase.com/wiki/Amethyst_Cream_Cherry[/URL] it states "developed by Brad Gates at Wild Boar Farms". While on the original link [URL="https://store.tomatofest.com/Cream_H...p/tf-0127m.htm"]https://store.tomatofest.com/Cream_H...p/tf-0127m.htm[/URL] it states "seeds given to Gary Ibsen of TomatoFest in 2015 by Gary Cass from the Big Island of Hawaii. Introduced commercially by TomatoFest Organic Tomato Seeds in 2016.

NewWestGardener February 9, 2017 02:20 AM

The best one for me is Green Tiger, very fruity, Blush is great too, along with Maglia Rosa, I have a good Colourful combo. All great tasting varieties.
I've grown Nectar for a couple of years, nothing special, not that sweet really. Sweet100 is better. I grew Suncherry F1 once, it was truly great, but I have not seen seeds for sale for a while. It claimed to be Sungold's little sister, in red.
Blackcherry is consistently late, bland and thick-skinned for me in my climate, but super productive. Purple Bumble Bee is at better, but not very sweet.

FarmerShawn February 9, 2017 08:32 AM

While I second Esterina F1 and Blush, in my garden, not much beats Russian Mini Yellow, a small cherry on a huge, rambling plant, that I'm pretty sure I got from one of Dr. Carolyn's seed offers.


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Nan_PA_6b February 9, 2017 10:55 AM

I don't think I'd call Black Cherry one of the sweetest out there. It is very likeable and lots of people do like it, but if you're going for sweetest...?
Nan

maxjohnson February 9, 2017 10:59 AM

Black Cherry can get very very sweet for me, especially when the fruit gets very dark under Florida sun. I think a brix value up to 9 is possible with longer ripening. Usually they're much lower than that. Nectar is the only one I've grown so far that get to 10. But sweetness usually don't translate to overall flavor, I much prefer Black Cherry.

HudsonValley February 9, 2017 09:50 PM

Chiming in mostly to follow this thread, but also to add that somewhere on these board is a discussion of Sweet Aperitif, a very sweet red cherry bred in England. (I'm considering it for this year, along with SunGold F1 and Gardener's Sweetheart, a sweet red cherry that's heart-shaped. I might just grow all three, along with Pink Ping Pong, a mildly sweet large cherry/small saladette that's currently at the top of my list of new varieties to try.)

e.thad February 9, 2017 11:11 PM

I've heard about Sweet Aperitif and Matt's Wild Cherry, but they are currants. When I used to grow SS100 they would get currant size at the end of the season and I ended up not bothering. I just like having a mouthful when I eat no matter what it is. I take big bites. Different parts of your mouth pick up different flavors and I like to get the full effect.

So after many of you have chimed in, I think I've come to the conclusion that nothing compares to Sungold for it's sweetness/uniqueness combination. It might be better to go for cherries that have a great flavor more so than flat out sweetness. With that said, I'm looking at Blush, one of the Bumblebees (instead of Isis Candy?) as a bi-color (now I have to decide on which Bumblebee), and I'd still like to try AO UBX.

I'm still trying to find out what that "Cream" cherry is. I emailed Tomatofest. Waiting for a reply.

Also, I grew Black Cherry years ago along with SS100 and Sungold, and it was almost inedible to me. It had very little sweetness and was almost bitter. Many many people list it as their favorite, so I'm tempted to give it another try just in case it was mislabeled or something else was off. It's funny though, how some people have a taste for a particular variety and to others the taste is quite objectionable. I gave a guy at work a bag of cherry toms last year containing Sungold, Sugar Gloss (never heard of them before so bought a plant and they were not really sweet ... plain and unexciting) and Green Grape (which I grew for the first time last year because I read good things, but turned out to be bland) and he ended up preferring the GG! Over Sungold much less!

I also wonder why a variety can taste different year to year depending on conditions, but I've never heard or read anyone say that about Sungold. It tastes the same every year for me no matter what.

uno February 12, 2017 10:13 AM

I don't like the taste of this tomato but it's a beautiful plant and sets lots of little marble sized fruit. It's called coyote. I would say as far as just sweetness goes it was the sweetest that I ever grew.

Jim

e.thad November 5, 2017 11:18 AM

Now that the season is coming to an end here in the Philadelphia area, I'd like to give a report on my cherry's.

After much indecision, I ended up growing:

Sungold
Nectar
Blush
Isis Candy

I grow cherries mainly to eat off the plant when in the garden.

Sungold - Was fabulous as usual, even with all the rain.

Nectar - As sweet as advertised. Not complex in flavor as most have said, but still really sweet and enjoyable to my pallette. I also liked that it maintained its size to the end (a little larger than average), unlike SS100 which gets too small towards the end of the season. This will be my red cherry for the foreseeable future.

Blush - It produced well and looked cool, but was bland. I pulled it halfway.

Isis Candy - Just ok. Was a little sweet with a somewhat meaty texture. Good for salads. Maybe someday again, but not in the near future.

So next year it'll be Sungold and Nectar again. For new additions, I'm looking at Snow White, Ildi, and thinking about giving Black Cherry another try. Seems a lot of folks like Sugar Lump, so it's a possibility.

Labradors2 November 5, 2017 12:21 PM

I grew Sweet Aperitif this year and it was very sweet AND had a complex flavor!

I am intrigued that you grew Blush and that it tasted bland as I came to the same conclusion last year. This year I grew Blush by mistake and it was divinely fruity and sweet so I wondered if I had sampled it at the wrong stage last year.....

Linda

Fred Hempel November 5, 2017 12:35 PM

Waiting for full "Blush" is often a mistake. Particularly early in the year,
and also during wet periods, waiting for full blushing (marbling)
results in over-ripe fruit that are of low quality.

Sometimes, late in the year, or during drought/dry-farm conditions,
blushing is correlated much better with peak flavor.

Rule of thumb: There is no rule of thumb, except that it is good to start tasting Blush fruits as soon as the green stripes start to fade to yellow, and before marbling begins.

[QUOTE=Labradors2;670661]I grew Sweet Aperitif this year and it was very sweet AND had a complex flavor!

I am intrigued that you grew Blush and that it tasted bland as I came to the same conclusion last year. This year I grew Blush by mistake and it was divinely fruity and sweet so I wondered if I had sampled it at the wrong stage last year.....

Linda[/QUOTE]


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