Moie moie TPS
 

After 20+ years of growing Moie moie,(can also be spelt Moe moe )with never setting fruit,last years cold summer sent them into a berry growing frenzy but this summer so far its back to normal with no berries because its been quite hot.
So from last summers berries i grew 12 seedlings in June 2012,these TPS plants are now 9 months old and are still flowering and settling berries,there's no sign yet of them dying down,The interesting part of these TPS plants compared to the tuber grown plant is the size,in the photo the TPS row runs across from left to right in the middle.

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The Moie moie TPS plants are now coming up 10 months old and still flowering,while there's the tuber grown plants in the back ground which are nearly finished for the growing season,so if it wasn't for winter frost could they just keep on growing and how common is it for TPS grown plants to stay actively growing for this long?

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Yes, first year seedling potato plants from TPS often live longer than if from tubers. It makes it difficult to estimate days to maturity. Naturally if one pull berries from healthy vines of rather late varieties/clones...the resulting TPS seedlings may be represented by increasingly later maturities.

Since TPS seedlings carry little or no virus unless infected late in the growth cycle....the earlier die back will happen when the tubers replanted carry latent year infections causing rather benign injury but can be seen as much earlier as the years go by....and earliness is enhanced when a potato grows from a tuber anyway....the dynamics of which would take be a while to explain.

One may pick up Virus A or Virus S and the plants may appear symptomless but just enough stress is placed on the vine to cause it to die down quicker.

Tom Wagner

This would explain why my Moie moie tuber grown plants have died back sooner when compared to some different strains of Moie moie given to me from Cesarz,his ones still are rather green but not as much as the TPS plants though.
What really amazes me is that one row of TPS have spread laterals out 1.5m each side,i never had plants even half the size from the TPS of yours Tom.

Wow ah! Richard those Moie-Moie TPS plants look great. Have any gifted you with TPS berries again?

I also had my TPS grow until the frost killed them and by the way the last plants to die in my garden were some of the Mystery TPS plus Fripapa, Muru and Lumper. They are long and store so well....even the red Mystery just barely pip the eyes after a nice 5 months of storage in the basement. Muru even had shown signs of wanting to wake up.

yes Wendy the TPS grown plants have grown berries,i'm bothering with then till next season when all i'll have growing are moie moie's.

Today i dug up the row of TPS,only two plants did any good,the rest had tubers to small to worry about.

So plant one of two grew tubers further out than i mentioned in my last post,i found some 3m from the centre but unlike the other plant it didn't grow a lot at its centre,as it resembles the parent plant this will be the one that will be grown along side the parent plus the three separate clones from Cesarz
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This one didnt send out as much in the way of laterals as the other but grew a much larger crop 15kg+,but because its not the colour i'm after in the Moie moie it wont be kept
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Those 2 look very good, that second potato is interesting color inside and out. Taste wise how they do? The size are nice enough for a 1st year tuber. Interesting that now they are giving you TPS berries the seedlings from Moie-Moie TPS because since Moie-Moie did not give berries for so many years I wonder what made this fertility change.


I'll keep an eye on my Maori spud patch this year looking for berries since they'll be a 2nd year clones plus those I saved from your slips.

It was the cold summer we had 2011-12 that made the moie moie set fruit i'm sure,summers like that are rare so thats why it hadn't happened before,the summer of 2012-13 on the other hand has been one of the hottest for 30 + years so the original clone plus Cesarz's never had berries.

The foliage from the darker TPS plant was so heavy i struggled to pick it up,it would have had to have weighted over 40kgs.

Taste was good,but Moie moie are better tasting as a new potato i think.

Please send me #2 if you don't want it. Send me a PM?

I got one plant similar to your 2nd moie-moie from tps.... I lost my pictures bummer. Will try to find it :). I got 5 seeds more trying again in 2016

Hi Wendy, good to see you are still working with Moie moie, how many tubers did you get from it.

I got just few tubers from the 2 plants I grew in 2014 from Moie-Moie TPS you sent me. I gave them to Nathan Pierce to grow again and I believe he saved them. The original Moie Moie I lost it (never emerged/rot in the ground!)
I sent some of that Moie Moie TPS to Canada to Dave he posts at tatermater pro boards as (gardensup) , He grew 2 different from the pictures above. See here flic.kr/s/aHsk7cKj8N

They look different to what ive grown from Moie moie TPS. Have you noticed very long stolons, ive had some that have sent out 4 meters long

On the 2 plants I grew no. I will ask Dave and Nathan about that

My experience is the same as Wendy's. The stolons are relatively short and they seem to be pretty much the same length as the other varieties I grow.

Richard,
This year I am growing 5 seeds I saved from the Moie-Moie mix you sent me, plus Gardensup Moie (his selected Moie-Moie offspring) and my very own produced MysteryX TPS. I HOPE I get more yield this time around since I love the maori long storage and frost resistance genes.

Hi Wendy,You are right , they do bounce back well after a frost. I only just 5 mins ago i dug up some Moie moie for a meal and there in among the plants was a unwanted Mystery plant, ive got a block of Mystery planted way down the end of our property under the neighbours central pivot which jets water about 20metres into the sheeps paddock, i dont want it to cross with Moie moie but its so hard to get rid of every plant because its such a vigorous strong potato.

If they cross, send me the TPS! :yes:
I bet they can make an interesting couple:lol:

Moie-Moie TPS from 2014
 

Hi Richard,

I am growing back the one tuber from Moie-Moie TPS you've sent me in 2014. This is the 2nd year clonar growth since Nathan Pierce grqciously grew it in 2015 and sent ut back to me again. The plant is tall but not erect. I will know more in few months now is about to set flowers. This was like a gem with Lavender and cream skin.. Not resembles Moie-Moie.

I am growing the rest of the original seed to see what I get.

Hi Wendy, summer just gone i inter planted a two Moie moie TPS grown plants amoung the parent clones, both plants in the end towered over the clones and didn't grow much in the way of stolons which is what i'm after, previous TPS plants have produced plants with stolons of three metres and more. The two plants produced good crops of mainly white skin but had a small amount of red colouring, somewhat like the lavender and cream skin you said. Even though they dont have the taste of the parent clone/s i will still use them again as the are great TPS berry producers and hopefully with more pollination mixing from parent clone/s they might throw some seed worth considering. So far haven't produced a TPS that tastes as good as the Moie moie clone/s :bummer: