Black Krim x Better Bush
 

Got some on the vine. Don't know if they'll be work anything but both parent plants grew really well. Will post pics as they ripen.

Didn't someone recently report that JD's Special C-Tex originated as Black Krim x Early Girl?

If so, Black Krim x Better Bush might be another winner.

I'm curious. Looking forward to reports!

Well, the plants I cross pollinated have around 8 tomatoes on them so, if they CP worked, I should have some good tomatoes. We'll see!!!

I am looking forward to the report and pics as well. :D

[QUOTE=swinefka;273596]I am looking forward to the report and pics as well. :D[/QUOTE]

Plant is just putting on hopefully crossbred fruits like crazy. I'll post pics this afternoon.

So, I've cross-pollinated both ways so I have Better Bush x Black Krim growing on Black Krim plants and Black Krim x Better Bush growing on Better Bush plants.

One thing I've learned from raising livestock is that sometimes it does make a difference which side is maternal and which side is paternal.

So, the first photo is Better Bush as the mother plant and the second is with the Black Krim as the mother plant. So far, there is only one fruit on the Black Krim plant.

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Those are looking good. I'm so looking forward to seeing them ripe!

I'm a bit confused, are these plants F1's or are these the parent plants?

[QUOTE=cedarswamp;274167]I'm a bit confused, are these plants F1's or are these the parent plants?[/QUOTE]

These are just the parents. I'm aware the tomatoes will look like the parent stock until the next generation.

This is very cool! I love JDs so hopefully this will make a great cross. Lots of great tasting tomatoes (like JD) on a shorter plant that can take our heat would be most welcome. Good luck and please keep us posted. I've really got my fingers crossed on this one.

[QUOTE=bluebonnets;273870]Those are looking good. I'm so looking forward to seeing them ripe![/QUOTE]
Jumped the gun a bit. Gotta wait before the fun starts. This ought to be a good one. Hope you keep us informed!
:D

[QUOTE=bluebonnets;274828]Jumped the gun a bit. Gotta wait before the fun starts. This ought to be a good one. Hope you keep us informed!
:D[/QUOTE]

Well... in all fairness I should have been more clear.

Doing the cross both ways is commendable. It will be interesting to see the difference.

[QUOTE=johno;274960]Doing the cross both ways is commendable. It will be interesting to see the difference.[/QUOTE]

Thanks. Like I said, I grew up raising livestock so I understand that using one side as the maternal parent may produce different results than if you used it as the sire.

A perfect example would be blue-butts, which are essentially a cross between Hampshire and Yorkshire parents. Generally, the best way to cross this is Hampshire boar X Yorkshire sow. It doesn't generally work as well the other way.

Goal is to cross the two, breed each variety out for a few generations and then cross the strains.

Fruits are growing so fast . The pics above were from five days ago. The pics from today show substantial growth.

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I've grown Black Krim, love em, and think I know why you picked them but I haven't grown Better Bush. So, I was wondering why you picked them. Real tasty, hardy, great growth?

[QUOTE=bluebonnets;275380]I've grown Black Krim, love em, and think I know why you picked them but I haven't grown Better Bush. So, I was wondering why you picked them. Real tasty, hardy, great growth?[/QUOTE]

Hardiness, disease resistance and the ability to be easily grown in pots. They aren't on the level of a Berkeley Tie Dye or Cherokee Purple in terms of taste but they're still very tasty.

Ah, okay, thanks. This will be an exciting mix. Wtg!

Growing Better Bush right now. They were giving away beautiful plants at work today and I figured what the heck, I have to yank some diseased plants, might as well give them a try.

I thought about doing some crosses with them too for small plants with some disease resistance.

Harvested seed yet from yours?

[QUOTE=ChrisK;292494]Growing Better Bush right now. They were giving away beautiful plants at work today and I figured what the heck, I have to yank some diseased plants, might as well give them a try.

I thought about doing some crosses with them too for small plants with some disease resistance.

Harvested seed yet from yours?[/QUOTE]

Unfortunately that plant died and I was unable to save seed from that mating.

[QUOTE]One thing I've learned from raising livestock is that sometimes it does make a difference which side is maternal and which side is paternal[/QUOTE]

This is VERY TRUE. Having had dairy goats and show dogs, I'm a heavy breeder on the female side. my breedings were always the best when I worked from the maternal side of breeding.

but with plants it is a great way to test and see results and not have to deal with a life time of something that didn't work out right. I did one cross on the paternal side and didn't like it one bit, nope not one bit.

As far as crossbreeding goes, I've got a Black and Brown Boar in with a P20 this fall. I'm hoping that my efforts at intentional crossbreeding will work out there as it could yield some interesting colors.

Obviously, being new to the world of blue tomatoes, I won't be growing P20 past this fall as I've accumulated some Bosque Blue and Indigo Rose seeds which are supposed to have better taste. I'm not too worried as this is just a novelty tomato for me anyways.

Ive looked and looked to no avail, I cant find a thread or post anywhere.

How did you cross pollinate the plants?
In other words, what method did you use?:)

Worth

[QUOTE=Worth1;292635]Ive looked and looked to no avail, I cant find a thread or post anywhere.

How did you cross pollinate the plants?
In other words, what method did you use?:)

Worth[/QUOTE]

Worth,

I'm confused regarding the first part of this post.

As for the second, I emasculated the flowers and cross pollinated. I did not bag the flowers afterward so there would have been necessary grow outs to select for they actual crossbred plants.

[QUOTE=Baizanator;292651]Worth,

I'm confused regarding the first part of this post.

As for the second, I emasculated the flowers and cross pollinated. I did not bag the flowers afterward so there would have been necessary grow outs to select for they actual crossbred plants.[/QUOTE]


The first part of the post was me looking for a thread or post on how you pollinated the plants.:)

Too bad the southern wilt took your plants.:(

Worth

[QUOTE=Worth1;292662]The first part of the post was me looking for a thread or post on how you pollinated the plants.:)

Too bad the southern wilt took your plants.:(

Worth[/QUOTE]

Yeah. Like I said, I'm hoping the move to EarthBoxes will help.

[QUOTE=Baizanator;292651]As for the second, I emasculated the flowers and cross pollinated. I did not bag the flowers afterward so there would have been necessary grow outs to select for they actual crossbred plants.[/QUOTE]

That's what I thought you did.

I have looked at pictures, read about it and even seen the video on how to do this.:lol:

I can tell you all right now I will never have the patience to do this.:no:

Now ask me to do a 4 panel, 40 lines per inch checkering job on a rifle bolt handle and I could do it all day.:yes:
I admire you for your ability, enthusiasm and patience to do so. :yes:

Worth