Peppadew Patent
 

It was always my understanding that there was an attempt to get a patent on the Peppadew but that it was denied.
One of my blog readers sent me this link to a copy of the actual patent application by Peppadew International. If I'm reading it right, it looks like they were given a full patent right to it. :no:
[URL]http://apps.ams.usda.gov/PVPO/CertificateDatabase//AdobeImages/009800051.pdf[/URL]

Maybe someone wiser than me can read this and see if that is correct.

Well, it is definately interesting. It does appear to be a legit document, but then again, I don't read legalese. I didn't know the name of it was Juanita.

While page 1 (the Certificate page) looks good, there are so many corrections (WITHOUT ANYONE'S INITIALS OR ?????) on the subsequent pages, that, as a former U.S. government worker trained in US DoD contracts, I have all kinds of red flags going up on this. Usually, changes are made by some kind of official amendment with additional signatures, etc. Strike-thrus are usually only found on Draft documents and then only with someone's initials.

Something seems out of the ordinary here. However, after looking at a few other patent approvals, it seems the pencil-in stuff is not uncommon.

Ted

I've been hearing chatter about this pepper for a while now, but I've never heard from anyone who'd had one fresh, just pickled or canned. I was also under the impression that the taste had as much to do with how it was pickled as how the pepper tasted. So, I'm wondering if there will be any market for it beyond a burst of novelty interest.

That was an interesting document. It is a very good plant id aid. So peppadew is a baccatum type which requires a long growing season. They grow well in pots and can be brought in for the winter. In case anyone is growing a baccatum type pepper.
Remy

Well, not all baccatuums do well in containers. Some are quite tall and sprawly, and do much better in the ground. Baccatuums that I have grown that do better in the ground are Bishops Hat, Chaco Yellow, Pilange, and Queen Laurie.

I have jar of peppadews in fridge. The pickling liquid is so sweet that I would not known by taste that they are baccatums.

I have four baccatum plants growing in pots indoors. I have found earlier that overwintering them and pruning makes them grow more compact. Now I have bent the braches down in circles to keep them from growing all over.

[quote=Blueaussi;138305]Well, not all baccatuums do well in containers. Some are quite tall and sprawly, and do much better in the ground. Baccatuums that I have grown that do better in the ground are Bishops Hat, Chaco Yellow, Pilange, and Queen Laurie.[/quote]

I think you missed my point. I was sort of saying that if you lived up north, and if you were growing a certain baccatum pepper, and if you were worried about getting a harvest from that certain pepper that you might have luck in pot and bringing it indoors. Not that anyone would be growing a certain baccatum pepper.;)


Remy

[QUOTE=remy;138365]I think you missed my point. I was sort of saying that if you lived up north, and if you were growing a certain baccatum pepper, and if you were worried about getting a harvest from that certain pepper that you might have luck in pot and bringing it indoors. Not that anyone would be growing a certain baccatum pepper.;)


Remy[/QUOTE]


*sigh*

Sometimes it's so hard to be a blond.


Sorry, I let my general enthusiasm for the species bubble over.

[quote=Blueaussi;138390]*sigh*

Sometimes it's so hard to be a blond.


Sorry, I let my general enthusiasm for the species bubble over.[/quote]
:lol: I have that problem often, and I can't blame it one being blonde!

Remy

Well, Here's some pics of what is supposed to be Peppadews. Taken today.

Can you get one of the flowers? Baccatuum flowers are pretty distinct, they have green around the inside of the petals.

Sure is a purty plant TomatoAddict.

Terry,
My how they've grown since you showed me those plants 3 weeks ago! Hope the rest of your garden is flourishing. I'll be interested to see what the peppadews are supposed to look like since I've never seen any...as yet.
Z

Blue, I will take a pic tomorrow of the flowers. Yes, they do have a greenish color around the inside. These are the tallest peppers I have ever grown.

Even without seeing the flowers, the plant looks like a Capsicum baccatum.

It would be interesting to compare fresh taste to other baccatums.

Your peppers look like the chileman's.

[url]http://www.thechileman.org/results.php?chile=1&find=peppadew&heat=Any&origin=Any&genus=Any&submit=Search[/url]

Here's a photo of the Peppadew Flower
[IMG]http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o200/Rasogirl/2009/Peppadewflower.jpg[/IMG]

Very Cool, T.
:D

Wow, what a great picture! What kind of camera are you using?


And, yes, that's a classic baccatuum flower.

Thanks! It's a Sony Cyber-shot. I had it set on the Macro setting.

Great pic! Looks like it might be the real thing. How exciting! I can't wait for oyu to try a ripe one and tell how it tastes.
Remy

I finally saw a bloom! It is very neat looking with the yellow/green.
Remy

From what I hear, expect the bush to reach 5ft+ in height.

Where did you manage to get seeds or the plant from? Never heard of it till now, but it's very interesting.

Here's the link to the pepper in the PVP lookup

[url]http://www.ars-grin.gov/cgi-bin/npgs/html/showpvp.pl?pvpno=9800051[/url]

It looks like there's 16 more years to go under its PVP protection. And yes, it was originally denied...if it had been accepted back in 1997, there would be just a few years left.

Now as for the actual seeds...

[QUOTE]13. Does this mean that the home gardener or farmer cannot propagate the seed of a protected variety and save it for future planting?


Answer: Under provisions of the PVP law and regulations growers and [B]home gardeners can grow, and save seed for their own future planting, any [I][U]legally purchased [/U][/I]protected variety they wish.[/B] However some protected varieties that are sold may have other limitations due to patents or contracts and may not be saved for future planting.

[url]http://www.ams.usda.gov/AMSv1.0/ams.fetchTemplateData.do?template=TemplateC&page=PVPOFAQAnswers5[/url]
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The problem is legally getting a source of the seeds...

Maybe not peppadew, but Pepe Le Pew ;)
[IMG]http://s7d4.scene7.com/is/image/Lenox/407707_wHR?$medium$[/IMG]

I guess I can wait 16 years for something that is unknown as to fresh eating viability.

Bump

Any ripe peppers yet? I'm very curious about the taste.

"Those who have shown kindness shall receive kindness", thus sayeth someone who has these seeds...

;)

[QUOTE=huntsman;143403]"Those who have shown kindness shall receive kindness", thus sayeth someone who has these seeds...

;)[/QUOTE]


...but what does it taste like? I wanna know! Is it different from other baccatuum's?


Baccatuums are my favorite speices of pepper.