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les matzek March 22, 2011 10:42 AM

superroots air pots
 
has anybody tried the aboce ?, they are made in the uk
and they are pricey, regards.

les

ireilly March 22, 2011 11:58 AM

Have not tried any of them. I remember there was a thread here about this US company but the discussion did not go too far.

[URL]http://www.rootmaker.com/products_propagation.php[/URL]

les matzek March 22, 2011 12:43 PM

thanks for the reply i read the posts rootmaker pots
but i am talking about superroots air pots they are
made in england the rootmaker pots are made in the
us thanks anyway, regards.

les

ireilly March 22, 2011 01:45 PM

Sorry, Les, I was in a hurry and did not explain that I meant I have not tried any of the kinds out there, and was adding the link to the US company. I did look up the superroots website also. I think they all rely on getting the roots to not circle the pot but to grow outward and air prune.

Both companies are sure pricey (proud of their products). Maybe it is worth it, don't know. Hopefully someone who has used them will chime in.

Walter

MJACTIVIST March 22, 2011 02:36 PM

[SIZE=2]I've used the AirPots and I wanted to compared them to Smart Pots, what I normally use. I found that the Airpots didn't do as well as the SP. I think that its b/c the Smart pots allow the roots to grow out in any direction and be air pruned, but the Airpots have specific air holes that the roots will grow to. So while some of your roots are being air pruned they are also being constricting where they can grow.
Just my .02
L8
MJ
[/SIZE]

austinnhanasmom March 22, 2011 05:44 PM

I've used AP and SP and think they produce very similar results if you leave the plant in the pot for awhile. If the plant is started in one of these and then transferred to another container, or the ground, I prefer the root development of the AP. The AP dries out quicker, so must be watched closely in the heat of summer.

puttgirl March 22, 2011 05:51 PM

I started a thread not long ago asking about smartpots-if I get some time, I'm going to try to make my own (only a couple). Not so sure how the thread will hold out though, but if they make it through one summer, I'll be happy.

igarden March 29, 2011 12:30 PM

i ws wondering if these were like the root trainers? i purchased some root trainers from Thompson & Morgan last year and really liked them. they set a great straight root system, and bought me time if i couldn't get the plants in the ground right away. i used them for pinon trees, fava beans, and corn. i see that they're in the states now, that Park's now has them...

[url]http://www.parkseed.com/gardening/PD/6196[/url]

salix March 29, 2011 05:18 PM

Those Root trainers are great for corn (yes, I have to start them inside and early in short-season land), have used them for many years. Unfortunately, I find them quite flimsy and the price of replacement "books" is increasing yearly. Have gone to using the large celled planting inserts from good ol' Lee Valley.

les matzek March 29, 2011 09:41 PM

[LEFT]the superroots air pots i am talking about can be found at [url]www.hydrofarm.com[/url] they are not like root-tainers which i think are made in texas ??, Superoots are nothing like root trainers pots,
[/LEFT]

regards.

les

jdmfish May 27, 2011 02:47 AM

Are these the pots that's mentioned in the title?

[url]http://www.superoots.com/air_intro.htm[/url]


Bought 4 of them this year. Found them for the same price as the cloth "air pots", but I had to pay S&H, so the SR-AP's cost me $20 shipped for 4 (6x4 and .8g) but I also bought some nutrients too, since I had to pay for S&H.




[IMG]https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-FxMCkermQKQ/Td7LjTkBzhI/AAAAAAAAADw/eKFsrsd5pBg/s912/DSCI0475.JPG[/IMG]


Sorry for the terrible picture. There's some cannabis growers who use these, and rave about their effectiveness. Not only are they much more effective, a smaller pot could be used, if space is tight. Some were growing in 5-7g standard HD buckets, and were growing the same size plant in 3g SR-AP containers. (As long as you keep an eye on the moisture level)

Furthermore, and not really important, but they are very "handsome" looking pots when you have a plant in them. Very neat looking pots.


[I hope I don't get in trouble for mentioning the "c" word here..]

austinnhanasmom May 27, 2011 11:08 AM

Only issue I have seen with these is that they dry out quickly. I have some potatoes growing in large AP and need to add an auto-dripline; or my plants will be toasted.

les matzek May 27, 2011 11:18 AM

i have ordered 6 8 inch airpots from
flora hydroponics i hope the work as
they say ??.


les

jdmfish May 27, 2011 12:53 PM

[QUOTE=les matzek;215993]i have ordered 6 8 inch airpots from
flora hydroponics i hope the work as
they say ??.


les[/QUOTE]


From the pictures I've seen of the rootballs after cultivation, the SR-AP had slightly more root structure than the cloth "air pots"/smart pots, and significantly more root structure than traditional pots. Furthermore, his testing indicated he could get hydroponic-like growth and cultivation, in a soil based container.

Which is why I went ahead and ordered a few. Figured if anything, I won't be out that much, and I can see if they work or not. A poster on another board recommended to root your plants in these, and transplant into regular pots if you live in a very hot climate, which I do, and grow outside (which I do, most of the day).



His recommendations were the 6x4" "starter cell", and the .8gal (5.9x6.3), for starters.

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Les - did you order the the .8gal (5.9x6.3) or the 2gal (8.7x9)?



And this is the cheapest place I found for the SR-AP:

[url]http://quailmountainranch.com/pots-containers-superoot-air-pots-c-14_53.html[/url]


Seller has all sizes - some might not be listed on his website. He sells them on eBay as well.

les matzek May 27, 2011 03:11 PM

hi jdmfish i made a mistake i ordered the
8 gallon size not 8 inch i hope there are
bigger than the size you posted above
regards.

les

jdmfish June 5, 2011 05:50 AM

[QUOTE=les matzek;216021]hi jdmfish i made a mistake i ordered the
8 gallon size not 8 inch i hope there are
bigger than the size you posted above
regards.

les[/QUOTE]


Oh they will be. That's the .8g pot (6" x 7") that I use for peppers. They are about twice the size of the 1g traditional nursery pots I have.

jdmfish June 16, 2011 05:34 AM

Hi Les, did your order arrive? It's been 2 weeks, and I was curious what you thought / initial impressions.

Did you plant anything in them yet?

les matzek June 16, 2011 09:17 AM

hi jdmfish,
i have not planted in them yet,
i cant figure out how to get the
base locked on to the sides i
tried for 3 hours to get the
base locked on to the sides
with no luck, i will try again
today if i can not get the
bottom to lock on all six
of them will end up in the
dompster,best regards.

les

austinnhanasmom June 16, 2011 09:59 AM

Les -

Perhaps I can help - pm me and I can email photos.

On one long end, there is a row of protrusion thingeys that did not have the tips removed. This end goes "up", as a reservoir if you over water. Not terribly effective, so if you put this row at the bottom of the pot, no biggie. I think it's almost easier to set up if this row is down.

Lay the pot flat, open protrusion thingeys out.

Place the bottom disc so that the center "nipple" is up.

Start from your left and roll the airpot bottom around the disc. The airpot should just overlap itself, one row of protrusion thingeys. Sometimes, securing a fastener at the bottom and then at the top helps.

The oldest airpots seemed to have the bottom fit more snugly then the newer ones do.

Assuming that my description helps, the soil does not seem to stay in the airpot until water and a plant are added - another frustration of this design. You can have ALL of the dry soil simply stream out the bottom.

jdmfish June 16, 2011 11:31 AM

[QUOTE=les matzek;218957]hi jdmfish,
i have not planted in them yet,
i cant figure out how to get the
base locked on to the sides i
tried for 3 hours to get the
base locked on to the sides
with no luck, i will try again
today if i can not get the
bottom to lock on all six
of them will end up in the
dompster,best regards.

les[/QUOTE]


Wow, sorry to hear about your troubles. It shouldn't take that long - I got mine done in a few minutes.

Maybe these links can be helpful -


[url]http://www.airpotgarden.com/store/index.php?app=gbu0&ns=display&ref=assemble&sid=53f5d1w9spn52585ywmx1jsld149d9t6[/url]


(video to the right, when you click the first link)


and:


[url]http://www.airpotgarden.com/store/skins/zipskin_800/media/Air-Pot-assembly-print.pdf[/url]




[I][U]Please[/U][/I], let me know if you have any more questions!!

geeboss June 16, 2011 11:46 AM

I'll stick with these

[img]http://pic100.picturetrail.com/VOL1124/13040625/23203537/396232098.jpg[/img]

les matzek June 16, 2011 01:19 PM

thank you austinmom and jdmfish
for your help best regards.

geeboss,

i tried smart pots and
nurserie pots and i
could see no difference
in growth or production
between the two,thanks
regards.

les :)

jdmfish July 5, 2011 11:27 AM

Quick update on my 6"x4" 'air cells' by Superoots -

This is a ~3 month old yellow bell pepper:


[IMG]https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-Oydl5Tt0KpQ/ThG9_FY35rI/AAAAAAAAAIQ/5E09N6FonRM/s912/DSCI0489.JPG[/IMG]




I'll be updating root shoots as the plants finish their production.

Milan HP January 10, 2021 11:20 AM

I don't know if it's okay to resurrect a 10-year-old thread, but AirPots may or may not be useful. There are no evaluations, no results here. I am not any wiser.

So, let's start from scratch again:
Has any Tomatovillian used AirPots made in Scotland (Caledonian Tree Comp.)? If so, with what results? Are they worth their price in practical terms?

Milan HP


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