Butternut and Acorn ?
 

This year, we trying a bunch of different squash varieties. I haven't grown Butternut or Acorn squash before. I don't know if they do better sprawling on the ground or on a trellis/fence? I plan on planting around 15 plants of each. I'm guess on a trellis/fence?

The Butternut variety is Waltham.

The Acorn variety is Table Queen.

Unrelated - The other varieties of squash I'm growing this spring/summer are:

Seminole pumpkin/squash - from a Tomatovillian
Gialle Nostrale - from a Tomatovillian
Tatume - from a Tomatovillian
Early White Bush Scallop
Early Yellow Straightneck
Dark Green Zucchini

Salt I will answer your question with a picture and a question.

They are about the same size but not the same variety.
My rule of thumb.
If it climbs then use a trellis.

What do you think?
[IMG]https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/6c/5e/28/6c5e289348925fb666d9dfe50ac32956.jpg[/IMG]

That is beautiful!

Worth to use an overused word; AWESOME.


jon:roll:

I wish it were mine.

Wow and double wow!!!!!!!! Not only beautiful to see, but so easy to pick.

ALittle Salt... Acorn squash is really yummy. Very easy to bake too. Cut in half. Coat the cavity with some butter and brown sugar and lay in a piece of bacon or a sausage link and bake til tender. Tastes like your eating a sweet potato.

Butternut and Acorn can get kind of heavy, so if you go up, have some strength. I have seen where folks have trellised them up and then they put like a small board in the air as a platform of the squash to sit on.

I don't know about the first 4 on your additional list, but the Early Straightneck and the Dark Green Zucchini are going to make a bush type plant. They won't climb. If you can hill up about a 3 foot wide patch, and just plant down it. The Straightneck and the Zucchini will make all their fruits near the main stem.

[QUOTE=AlittleSalt;460791]This year, we trying a bunch of different squash varieties. I haven't grown Butternut or Acorn squash before. I don't know if they do better sprawling on the ground or on a trellis/fence? I plan on planting around 15 plants of each. I'm guess on a trellis/fence?

The Butternut variety is Waltham.

The Acorn variety is Table Queen.

Unrelated - The other varieties of squash I'm growing this spring/summer are:

Seminole pumpkin/squash - from a Tomatovillian
Gialle Nostrale - from a Tomatovillian
Tatume - from a Tomatovillian
Early White Bush Scallop
Early Yellow Straightneck
Dark Green Zucchini[/QUOTE]

I've grown the acorn and butternut ones you named and would never trellis them.

I had snow fence posts and strung netting down the length of those posts and did trellis small melons and cukes, and I think some long vine peas as well, but IMO squash that size do best inground,

I've grown the White Bush Scallop one as well, and would just forget about that one, not much taste to it, and there are other scalloped ones that have much better taste.

I thought I might have grown the Tatume one as well, just couldn't remember, but when I did a Google search nope, I didn't grow that one.

[url]https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=tatume+squash[/url]

For seveal years I had a 250 ft row that was ALL squash, both winter and summer varieties, and yes, I love squash, from the time we used to grow lots of it on the farm where I was raised.

Carolyn

Carolyn, that is a LOT of squash. A 250' row...wow. Squash is the one vegetable that all my family and friends agree on liking.

I had a feeling about the White Bush Scallop variety not having much taste.

The reason why we are trying 8 types this year is because we always grow the same two. Yellow Straightneck and Zucchini. They always produce really well for us, but we're wanting to try different types.

The yellow crook neck has better flavor and the grey zucchini is better the the green.
Worth

Worth, where did you find that photo? I would love to see more like it...

[QUOTE=JoParrott;460920]Worth, where did you find that photo? I would love to see more like it...[/QUOTE]


I just googled squash on trellis images and found it.:)

Worth

[QUOTE=Worth1;460913]The yellow crook neck has better flavor and the grey zucchini is better the the green.
Worth[/QUOTE]

I like the crookneck squash too.
But Gray Zucchini has no taste whatsoever.

[QUOTE=AlittleSalt;460924]I like the crookneck squash too.
But Gray Zucchini has no taste whatsoever.[/QUOTE]

I eat it raw in salad so it tastes like blue cheese to me.:lol:
I hardly ever eat summer quash cooked unless it is fried and then only about 3 times a year.

Worth

I'm impressed that you guys can grow squash to any degree in Texas. Squash vine borers always kill my plants before I get any significant harvest.


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[QUOTE=drbobintx;460976]I'm impressed that you guys can grow squash to any degree in Texas. Squash vine borers always kill my plants before I get any significant harvest.


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Uh they love it here to.
You need to wrap your vines in foil around the base of the stem and keep a sharp eye out for the tell tale holes.

There is a clay stuff you can spray but the name of it escapes me.

Worth

[QUOTE=Worth1;460925]I eat it raw in salad so it tastes like blue cheese to me.:lol:
I hardly ever eat summer quash cooked unless it is fried and then only about 3 times a year.

Worth[/QUOTE]
Now Worth... Blue cheese? that is disgusting. You need a drink of coffee or something. that is just pitiful... blue cheese?

"I eat it raw in salad so it tastes like blue cheese to me"

[QUOTE=clkeiper;460995]Now Worth... Blue cheese? that is disgusting. You need a drink of coffee or something. that is just pitiful... blue cheese?[/QUOTE]

LOL, I thought the same :lol:

Squash vine borers are problem here too. Squash bugs are an even bigger problem.

With the borers, as Worth replied, foil helps. A TP or paper towel roll helps. I've used water hose too. All of them work for the most part.

Squash bugs are different story though. I've used all kinds of organic miracle cures...didn't work. Soapy water...didn't work well enough. Malathion...waste of time and effort. :??:The only thing I've found that gets rid of squash bugs is a match and a gallon of gas.:twisted:

Worth --

Wow, that's an amazing photo!!

[QUOTE=Worth1;460994]Uh they love it here to.
You need to wrap your vines in foil around the base of the stem and keep a sharp eye out for the tell tale holes.

There is a clay stuff you can spray but the name of it escapes me.

Worth[/QUOTE]

Clay = kaolin?

Moschata type summer squash like Tromboncino have much better SVB resistance. And like we've talked about over in the cucuzzi thread, edible gourds like cucuzzi and edible gourds such as luffas are also really bug-proof and a good summer squash substitute.

[QUOTE=Worth1;460994]
There is a clay stuff you can spray but the name of it escapes me.

Worth[/QUOTE]

I don't have borers, but I do have cucumber beetles. I use Surround, a fine powdered kaolin clay. Is that the stuff you are talking about, Worth? It makes insects uncomfortable, so they go elsewhere. Doesn't kill anything, as far as I know.

[QUOTE=FarmerShawn;461021]I don't have borers, but I do have cucumber beetles. I use Surround, a fine powdered kaolin clay. Is that the stuff you are talking about, Worth? It makes insects uncomfortable, so they go elsewhere. Doesn't kill anything, as far as I know.[/QUOTE]

That's what I thought it was called thanks.
Now I have to figure out where they sell it here.

Worth

I get my Surround from Fedco in Maine.

[QUOTE=Worth1;460994]Uh they love it here to.
You need to wrap your vines in foil around the base of the stem and keep a sharp eye out for the tell tale holes.

There is a clay stuff you can spray but the name of it escapes me.

Worth[/QUOTE]


I tried using fine cloth coverings and dusting the vines with Sevin. I wasn't successful. I will try your foil trick. Thanks.


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[QUOTE=Worth1;460913]The yellow crook neck has better flavor and the grey zucchini is better the the green.
Worth[/QUOTE]

I like Costoluto Romanesco.
I wasn't a huge tatume fan but it is very cool looking and a pretty plant as well. It will do well on trellis. Give it room!
Kabocha is my favorite winter squash.

[QUOTE=Worth1;460913]The yellow crook neck has better flavor and the grey zucchini is better the the green.
Worth[/QUOTE]

I heard on the radio that the only time of year people have to lock their car doors in Lake Wobegon is when they are at church service during Zucchini season.

Give the white scallop a try - it is actually one of my favorites over yellow or zucchini. I'll second the grey zucchini being much more flavorful than the green, though.

There are lots and lots of scalloped summer squash varieties and I've grown many of them and here's a Google link about some of them:

[url]https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=scalloped+summer+squash+varieties+with+pictures[/url]

Two seed vendors that list LOTs of them, the non-hybrid ones, are Sandhill Preservation and Baker Creek, the latter with pictures, the former not, but Glenn Drowns who owns Sandhill was the former curator for Cucurbits for SSE so has a huge inventory and sent many of his varieties to Jere Gettle at Baker Creek shortly after Baker Creek got going.

Jere has travelled to many places overseas and has added to his squash varieties almost every year.

Hope that helps,

Carolyn

Thank You Carolyn. I have a long day of doctors and all today. I look foreword to looking at the sites tonight. :)

My favorite of the pattypans is Golden Bush Scallop. I will have mostly crooknecks this season but I like a couple of zucchini to fry and eat with some homemade marinara. My yellow squash usually outlasts the zucchini. The borers and the squash bugs seem to prefer any zucchini variety I grow.

While shopping today, I found seeds for Early Summer Crookneck and Dixie hybrid. I guess I'll have to try those too.