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Cole_Robbie November 21, 2017 01:36 AM

Sweetie Peppers from Territorial
 
I received Territorial's commercial grower's catalog yesterday, and the "sweetie" peppers stood out to me. The catalog says they are new. [URL]http://www.territorialseed.com/category/specialty_sweet_pepper_seed/2[/URL]
[URL]http://www.territorialseed.com/product/pp716[/URL]

I have Crunch Sweet Orange, so I don't need the Orange Sweetie. But the others would make a nice mix, especially with the purple. The lunch box mix from Johnny's is really good, but they don't have a purple pepper in the mix. The Sweeties also look a little bigger than the lunch box.


[IMG]http://cdn.territorialseed.com/images/uploads/21676_9813_large.jpg[/IMG]

clkeiper November 21, 2017 08:04 AM

they look just like the "yummy" variety. which always seem to be marketed as hybrids and they are not. I think they have so few seeds in each peppers they charge hybrid prices for the,. the orange ones are the tastiest. the others...meh. the purple ones look like a great addition though.

pmcgrady November 21, 2017 09:10 AM

Mighty Mini peppers are similar also. The purple ones look like Oda peppers sold by Baker Creek.

Nattybo! November 22, 2017 07:26 AM

[QUOTE=pmcgrady;672421]Mighty Mini peppers are similar also. The purple ones look like Oda peppers sold by Baker Creek.[/QUOTE]

I was thinking the same thing :)

clkeiper November 22, 2017 08:18 AM

Has anyone grown Oda? it is the one my friend had at the market and (Oda) is quite a bit bigger than Yummy or the lunch box series, but not a huge pepper... more like a small szegedi. pointed bottom round shoulders. not flat like the lunchbox yummy series. good producer but not nearly as sweet as the orange yummy.
[url]https://www.rareseeds.com/search/?keyword=Oda[/url]

Cole_Robbie November 22, 2017 01:28 PM

I have never grown the Yum-Yum peppers. Based on everyone's collective experience, are they the same as the Lunchbox? Has anyone saved seed and grown it out? I actually have a big bag of saved Lunch Box seed I never planted.

pmcgrady November 22, 2017 02:13 PM

[QUOTE=Cole_Robbie;672563]I have never grown the Yum-Yum peppers. Based on everyone's collective experience, are they the same as the Lunchbox? Has anyone saved seed and grown it out? I actually have a big bag of saved Lunch Box seed I never planted.[/QUOTE]
I bought a bag of peppers called Mighty Minis last year they are a mix I guess, some yellow, orange and red. Some are mini bell some shaped like jalapeño I think the yum yums are the same. I saved seed and grew 6 plants this year they grew true. One plant produced peppers just like Sweet Orange Crunch (seeds from you), couldn't tell them apart.

clkeiper November 22, 2017 02:16 PM

I think they are the same...just my opinion. but I grow only the orange of the "YUMMI/Y"... not "yum yum". they are the ones with flavor. they all look the same and I think it was a way to get people to buy "their" collection of seeds. When I started growing them there were no yum yum or lunchbox mix only yummy-orange yellow or red. the Yummy, I do believe, came via Hungary. nor were they hybrids. now they are sold as hybrids.

greenthumbomaha November 23, 2017 07:02 PM

I've been growing one or two plants of a dozen or more varieties. I would love to have a whole row of each type and call it good. I wish I could limit myself to a few that are prolific and don't take all summer to produce. Still looking for the magic pepper.

A Yummy type , hybrid Giant Marconi (patience with this one though), sweet banana, a mild jalapeno, a red/green bell and an orange bell, and one of my new faves Peppadew (thanks to HTG).

This one is new to me. How long did the Sweet Orange Crush take to start producing a good flush?

- Lisa

- Lisa

pmcgrady November 23, 2017 08:11 PM

[QUOTE=greenthumbomaha;672676]I've been growing one or two plants of a dozen or more varieties. I would love to have a whole row of each type and call it good. I wish I could limit myself to a few that are prolific and don't take all summer to produce. Still looking for the magic pepper.

A Yummy type , hybrid Giant Marconi (patience with this one though), sweet banana, a mild jalapeno, a red/green bell and an orange bell, and one of my new faves Peppadew (thanks to HTG).

This one is new to me. How long did the Sweet Orange Crush take to start producing a good flush?

- Lisa

- Lisa[/QUOTE]



This was the first year I grew Sweet Orange Crunch, but I'd say it's a mid season pepper it produced a lot of green peppers that took awhile to turn orange, when they did I was picking every couple of days. I'm growing them again, probably the best tasting sweet peppers I grew this year.

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clkeiper November 23, 2017 09:55 PM

[QUOTE=pmcgrady;672678]This was the first year I grew Sweet Orange Crunch, but I'd say it's a mid season pepper it produced a lot of green peppers that took awhile to turn orange, when they did I was picking every couple of days. I'm growing them again, probably the best tasting sweet peppers I grew this year.

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Is the sweetest orange crunch the pepper in the front bottom right outside of the bag? That looks exactly like Yummy orange.

pmcgrady November 24, 2017 06:54 AM

Yes lower right corner and the ones in the bag are SOC. Others are assorted cheese peppers and a lone Golden Treasure.

clkeiper November 24, 2017 07:28 AM

I think those look exactly like orange yummy peppers. And if the golden treasure is the one I picked up from another vendor at my husband's market...it also was an excellent pepper.
When I get back home on Monday I will try to remember to get a photo of what I have left in the cooler.

Cole_Robbie November 24, 2017 12:49 PM

Golden Treasure was great for me the past two years. Last summer, Ajvarski Sweet and Sweetest Pepper were my favorite red peppers. They were had to tell apart in flavor, both very good. Ajvarski has more of a wedge shape and Sweetest is more bull horn shaped.

pmcgrady November 24, 2017 03:10 PM

[QUOTE=Cole_Robbie;672723]Golden Treasure was great for me the past two years. Last summer, Ajvarski Sweet and Sweetest Pepper were my favorite red peppers. They were had to tell apart in flavor, both very good. Ajvarski has more of a wedge shape and Sweetest is more bull horn shaped.[/QUOTE]

I only got 2 Golden Treasures planted a lot of the peppers got BER and had bad spots on them, must have something to do with watering.

clkeiper November 27, 2017 06:44 PM

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This is what I picked a few weeks ago and put in the cooler. They are still fabulous.

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pmcgrady November 29, 2017 07:01 PM

I've still got a bag of them been over a month and they are still good even sweeter


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Cole_Robbie December 5, 2017 12:24 AM

Sweet Chocolate from Johnny's looks like it would round out that Sweetie mix of snacker peppers quite nicely. From the pictures, at least, it looks distinguishable from Purple Sweetie:

[URL]http://www.johnnyseeds.com/vegetables/peppers/sweet-bell-peppers/sweet-chocolate-organic-pepper-seed-579G.html[/URL]

Aura, Lipstick, and Glow look like another good sweet pepper mix. There are some new bells in the catalog, too. Johnny's has some great stuff. My biggest apprehension about ordering from them for market sales is that all the other vendors get the same catalog, so I risk someone else selling the exact same product.


Also, I got this link from another tville post, Harris has a small sweet pepper that shows stripes at immaturity. I think it is another component of a mix that would set the product apart:
[url]https://www.harrisseeds.com/collections/pepper/products/23432-sweet-pepper-candy-cane-red-f1?variant=276850442257[/url]

mensplace February 22, 2018 12:43 PM

Sweetest for saute? Is there a scale for sweetness?
 
I have been studying the peppers of the world and so many look identical.
Everybody is familiar with the Scoville scale for heat, but I have never seen any kid of listing of the world's sweetest or the best of the best for frying and sautéing.

I despise bitterness or thick skins.

Seems the Europeans do more in terms of using peppers in ways to preserve the pepper flavor whether alone, or in combination with just a few other vegetables like eggplant and tomato, not just stuffing.

I wonder how many are the same, but just different names in different countries?

SQWIBB February 22, 2018 02:10 PM

Mensplace I agree
A Brix rating of sweets would be awesome.

Ann123 February 22, 2018 05:02 PM

Here (Belgium) Sweet Palermo claims to be the sweetest pepper. It is indeed a very good, sweet and tasty pepper. It is a product of Rijk Zwaan (Holland). Last year I grew it out of saved pepper. Our season is too short and too cold for them to fully ripen. So I don't know if it is a hybrid or not: it looked like its parent but wasn't as sweet at all.

mensplace February 22, 2018 05:31 PM

[QUOTE=Ann123;684959]Here (Belgium) Sweet Palermo claims to be the sweetest pepper. It is indeed a very good, sweet and tasty pepper. It is a product of Rijk Zwaan (Holland). Last year I grew it out of saved pepper. Our season is too short and too cold for them to fully ripen. So I don't know if it is a hybrid or not: it looked like its parent but wasn't as sweet at all.[/QUOTE]

They certainly are masters at marketing...even found a brix comparison. Looks like a beauty! Checked the web and haven't found it in the U.S.. Maybe in the future for some here. At least I found some good looking recipes. By the way, I found Belgian people to be the friendliest and most sociable anywhere! The beers were outstanding as well!

clkeiper February 23, 2018 09:09 AM

[QUOTE=Ann123;684959]Here (Belgium) Sweet Palermo claims to be the sweetest pepper. It is indeed a very good, sweet and tasty pepper. It is a product of Rijk Zwaan (Holland). Last year I grew it out of saved pepper. Our season is too short and too cold for them to fully ripen. So I don't know if it is a hybrid or not: it looked like its parent but wasn't as sweet at all.[/QUOTE]

the same is true for any unripe pepper. it still tastes "green". yummy orange taste like nothing until they turn orange.

grow them in pots and bring them in and put them under a grow light in the Fall. see what happens. no cheaper than going to get them at the store of you spend a gazzilion dollars on a light though. some things we just need to be realistic with and grow lights? I see them for 700.00us dollars? nope. cant do it. I think they are marketed to the pot growers who can get the money out of a crop and can afford to spend 700.00 on a small square fixture. I can't do it.

mensplace February 23, 2018 09:45 AM

The sweet Palermo has intrigued me so I have written to the Dutch company that introduced and is marketing them. I have no idea if this is really something that is better than what we have here, but could not find them here and their numerous web sites have piqued my interest. Can't imagine why they would not market them here. Apparently, they have been there for 17 years.

My Dutch great grandmother may be looking down with amusement. I'll ask her soon!:))


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