Store bought shallots
 

An older gentleman gave me a 3 lb bag of golden shallots last year to plant, they did well. They were about ping pong ball sized to golf ball sized and taste great. Today I went to a Dierburg's and they had big torpedo shaped shallots for$3.99/lb, white garlic was $4.99/lb. I didn't check if the garlic was from China or California.
I can't order shallots like these, and pay for shipping, for $3.99/lb,
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I just found the same...last month, torpedo shaped and from California in my
local market. I would say this is a first...we buy shallots all winter
and never had these. I'll plant a few as well.

I started some store bought shallots a month ago in four inch pots and now they are in my garden beds. Look forward to the harvest later this summer.

Alex

Local sold Shallots look so bad, I wouldn’t think of eating or planting them. $6.99/lb though. If it calls for it in a recipe, somebody’s going to buy it..

The ones available here are very good quality but the prices are crazy, anywhere from $1.99 to $4.99 per lb.

Have never grown shallots before, but why plant an old one to get a new one ? Do they give you multiple bulbs off 1 plant ??

[QUOTE=matereater;685233]Have never grown shallots before, but why plant an old one to get a new one ? Do they give you multiple bulbs off 1 plant ??[/QUOTE]

Yeah you may get 5-10 bulbs off of the one planted.

[QUOTE=matereater;685233]Have never grown shallots before, but why plant an old one to get a new one ? Do they give you multiple bulbs off 1 plant ??[/QUOTE]



Yes, depending on the variety and growing conditions, they will multiply underground. I plant them in the fall along with my garlic and they do well.

I have shallots started from seed this year. The seeds were collected from torpedo shaped shallots sold for planting by McKenzie seeds... very nice looking. Will be interesting to see if they are the same shape or whether they are a hybrid with other shape onboard. As long as they are multipliers, I'll be happy. :wait:

"Store bought" seems to be the language of the commoners.
The upper class hill folk prefer to call it merchant sourced.:lol::P

Worth

[QUOTE=bower;685298]I have shallots started from seed this year. The seeds were collected from torpedo shaped shallots sold for planting by McKenzie seeds... very nice looking. Will be interesting to see if they are the same shape or whether they are a hybrid with other shape onboard. As long as they are multipliers, I'll be happy. :wait:[/QUOTE]

Bower, do you find that seed sown shallots form singles sort of like garlic or do they multiply first season?
I’ve never tried from seed, interested in your experiences
KarenO

I got mystery shallot seeds from Gary (Tormato) a few years ago, but they got mixed up with my torpedo and round shaped red onions (also grown from seeds) in the seedling stage, so I was never sure which were which.

There was no multiplying, so without being able to identify the shallots it wasn't worth trying to plant any again in the fall.

I did have a round shallot go to seed two years ago and I saved a bunch of them. This year I'm growing just those skipping onions and there will be no chance of a mix up! I'm expecting to harvest single bulbs this year and will save some to replant in the fall.

I'm not sure but these shallots look to me like the type that do not multiply. In other words, the type grown from seed. For me growing shallots is so worth it. Save a few each year for planting back in the fall, and harvest a large crop when they are ready. The best I've found are the pink shallots.

[QUOTE=KarenO;685308]Bower, do you find that seed sown shallots form singles sort of like garlic or do they multiply first season?
I’ve never tried from seed, interested in your experiences
KarenO[/QUOTE]

Haven't tried this before, but from what I've read, they will make singles from seed, then multiply when you plant them for the second year.

It does depend though, on how the hybrids are made - if they are hybrids. It seems likely they are, just because the classic type of shallots grown from bulb divisions rarely produce seeds.

Mind you, this is strictly "so I'm told" I can't claim any personal experience as yet. In fact, the round yellow "shallot" which I got from William Dam did produce seeds in my friend's garden, the same year they were planted come to think of it. Stress is a factor, variety too I guess.
Those yellow shallots were not too winter hardy for me, btw... only a few survived. I may pop those in somewhere in the spring if they're still good and hard. I may have to try planting the other type in spring as well.

[QUOTE=ChiliPeppa;685459]I'm not sure but these shallots look to me like the type that do not multiply. In other words, the type grown from seed. For me growing shallots is so worth it. Save a few each year for planting back in the fall, and harvest a large crop when they are ready. The best I've found are the pink shallots.[/QUOTE]

I did a little research, the Shallots I bought they look like Zebrune (banana shallot). A couple websites say they multiply... 3-5 per bulb, others say they are grown from seed. But no one has Zebrune sets for sale, only seed. I’m guessing when I plant these, they will go to seed, instead of multiply. Film at 11...

I started some from seed this year, Banana Shallot, as well as a few merchant sourced. I seem to recall that the last time I planted shallots from seeds, years ago they did multiply. We'll see..that's what makes gardening fun.

Alex

Yeah, I read elsewhere that someone had been replanting the bulbs of shallots grown from seed for a number of years and they performed like a regular shallot, dividing. If they put up a seed stalk the advice is to clip it to push them into the 'divide and conquer' cycle.

All of the hybrid from-seed shallots appear to be shallot X onion hybrids. So there is more uncertainty when growing out the seed of a possible hybrid, as I'm doing, than there is from replanting hybrid bulbs. But as Alex says, that's what makes gardening fun. :):wait:

[QUOTE=pmcgrady;685539]I did a little research, the Shallots I bought they look like Zebrune (banana shallot). A couple websites say they multiply... 3-5 per bulb, others say they are grown from seed. But no one has Zebrune sets for sale, only seed. I’m guessing when I plant these, they will go to seed, instead of multiply. Film at 11...[/QUOTE]
It could still be a shallot and not Zebrune even if the shape is like that. Zebrune, after much research I did seems to be 100% onion (not a hybrid as some say).
The fully round shape is given by the fact that they are grown from seed (there is also seed for shallot).
What I find odd is that people say onions don't multiply, and that is the opposite of what I always thought. Missed onions on the field often used to grow fast in the spring and multiply (4-5) and we used them as green onions (in my grandmother's garden). They were from what I remember the red onions, not sure if the white ones did or not.

[QUOTE=zipcode;685627]It could still be a shallot and not Zebrune even if the shape is like that. Zebrune, after much research I did seems to be 100% onion (not a hybrid as some say).
The fully round shape is given by the fact that they are grown from seed (there is also seed for shallot).
What I find odd is that people say onions don't multiply, and that is the opposite of what I always thought. Missed onions on the field often used to grow fast in the spring and multiply (4-5) and we used them as green onions (in my grandmother's garden). They were from what I remember the red onions, not sure if the white ones did or not.[/QUOTE]

You are right. Onions do multiply sometimes. For some reason I find that really cool. In fact I've got some leftover 2017 onions in my garden now. I'm hoping I'll get babies. :D

There are at least two multiplying types of onions that I am aware of. The potato onion and the Egyptian walking onion.

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Alex

I just bought a couple of bags of small onions, a mighty $1 per mesh bag, I am going to plant them out soon to be used as green onions.
Years ago in Northern China, we used to plant shallots every spring, the same time when we plant garlic, our winters were very cold (-30 C ish), they would grow and split into about 5 bulbs. We would pull out a bulb with its greens per plant to use as green onions first, then the rest for storage when they fully mature.

I just got 2- 1lb sacks of ginger for $4... a little dried up to eat, but it is starting to sprout. Anybody grow Ginger?

Well I once grew a ginger plant in a 4 inch pot indoors:P - that was from a sprouty bit from the grocery store. I think they're easy to grow from sprouty roots. I think Worth may have grown it outdoors.. another friend of mine grew it in Hawaii. :?!?: I'm not sure how long a season it takes to get a good crop though, but too long for us here really.

Ginger is easy to coax into a pot but Mary Ann is a little feisty about it and takes work.:twisted:
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Worth