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4season June 26, 2016 01:57 PM

why are there little cloves about 4 inches above ground ?
 
On a couple of garlic plants there are one to four little cloves on the stem. Last year there were a few too but I don't remember any in years before that. No flowers or bulbils either.

Kazedwards June 26, 2016 03:52 PM

Could you post a pic?


-Zach

4season June 26, 2016 04:19 PM

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I knew someone would ask.
Found camera and cable, photo to desktop. (My windows 10 doesn't let me use the photo folder, I want XP back)
Most of the cloves are small, we have a friend who has grown for years and her garlic stayed small this year too.

henry June 26, 2016 04:27 PM

Some softneck varieties if they've been stressed do develop a secondary bulb above ground, that contains bulbils.

Ricky Shaw June 26, 2016 04:33 PM

I get them more in years when there's been a start, then a restart. We had warm weather in December, and I have some this year again.

4season June 26, 2016 05:29 PM

I don't remember weather, but there was drought stress even with mulch and drip tape.

PhilaGardener June 26, 2016 05:44 PM

Interesting. This was my worst year for garlic in a decade (I didn't get any of these stem bulbils this year, but I have seen them once or twice in the past).

Ricky Shaw June 26, 2016 05:53 PM

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and like this.

Kazedwards June 26, 2016 08:32 PM

Is it a soft neck variety? Some soft necks will try to through up a scape if really stresses


-Zach

joseph June 26, 2016 09:28 PM

I don't know if I'd attribute this trait to stress. It might be that the garlic is getting conditions to which it is better suited, so it tries to do the normal garlic pattern of trying to flower...

Zeedman June 27, 2016 12:40 AM

Stem cloves occasionally form on soft neck garlic, but their appearance in large numbers seems to be stress related. Due to heavy rains, my garlic last year spent much of May & June in muddy soil, and all the artichoke garlic had more stem cloves than normal. For some varieties, every plant had stem cloves, and sometimes in more than one location. The bulbs themselves were much smaller than normal. Last Fall, I moved the garlic bed to a location with better drainage, and have virtually no stem cloves this year. I planted many of the stem cloves from last year, to see if they will grow into stronger stock.

guruofgardens July 10, 2016 11:38 PM

Thanks, Zeedman. I had never heard of/seen stem cloves before.

Zeedman July 11, 2016 11:51 PM

The stem cloves I planted last Fall had very good winter survival, and have grown into fairly good-sized plants - larger than most of the hardneck bulbils that were planted at the same time. It is my hope that stem cloves represent a chance to "clean up" soft neck varieties which may have accumulated soil-borne diseases over the years... time will tell.


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