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augiedog55 January 18, 2012 09:40 AM

promix hp
 
Im just curious what you guys are going for promix. I see it mentioned and recommend here.I finally found some here in kc at a Hydrponic store. The online line price for promix was 48$ for 3.8 cf.. :panic:. Miracle grow looks like a steal compared to that stuff

Dewayne mater January 18, 2012 10:17 AM

The stuff is expensive, but, that is too expensive. I believe I found it Dallas in the thirty something dollar range at a hydro store. Check to see if you local ACE hardware or some other independently owned hardware store will order it for you. If so, they are likely to be a lot cheaper. You can find it a lot cheaper on line, but, the shipping costs are prohibitive. Finally, you could contact the mfg and see if they have any local distribution outlets. They often do in larger cities. Bottom line is, the stuff is very expensive and some of the other mixes, like Sunshine #4 are even more so. Good luck.

augiedog55 January 18, 2012 12:43 PM

I just got an email back from the hydroponic store. They don't have pro mix but they have sunshine advnced mix #4 in a compressed 3cf bail. They said it fluffs out to 6 cf. Is that right? Is it good stuff? Its 38$ for the bail if so it about comparable to MG in price
Thanks in advance

rnewste January 18, 2012 01:44 PM

While it may "fluff out" more than the packed volume, once you wet it, it will condense back to about its original packaged volume. Don't expect any "bonus" that you will get an expanded amount to fill more containers.

BTW as a reference point, Sunshine Mix #4 is currently selling for $28.00 at South Bay Hydroponics (San Jose). I am told that this is their break-even cost point, and they are selling at this price "due to competition". $38.00 is more the standard price around the Nation.

I've been using Sunshine Mix #4 for 2 years now and I will NEVER go back to Miracle Grow Potting Mix.

ProMix BX is another mix that you should investigate local pricing.

Raybo

carpenterlady January 18, 2012 05:17 PM

I either buy my Pro-mix at a farm store(PGX) or Menards(Ultimate Organic Mix). I used to buy it at Home Depot but I haven't seen it there for a couple years.

kurt January 18, 2012 07:44 PM

I get it down here (S.Florida)for $23.95 per 3 .6cubic ft.I get it at supplier that services the farming industry.I found them through the Pro Mix site online for retailer info search.Six bales this year got me 200 2and 1/2 gallon pots filled up

kurt January 18, 2012 08:14 PM

Pro Mix
 
[QUOTE=augiedog55;249602]Im just curious what you guys are going for promix. I see it mentioned and recommend here.I finally found some here in kc at a Hydrponic store. The online line price for promix was 48$ for 3.8 cf.. :panic:. Miracle grow looks like a steal compared to that stuff[/QUOTE]Checked my records,the company that makes it is Premier Horticulture,they are US suppliers based in Quakerstown PA.Thier site has a dealer locater.Good Luck,I have been using it for the last ten years and will not (tried almost all)use anything else.Note I stand corrected it is 3>8 cubic per bale.

feldon30 January 19, 2012 06:22 AM

ProMix is the best product money can't buy. I don't understand why the company can't get their act together and keep availability (at a reasonable price) at major retailers. I'd pretty much given up on finding it when I need it.

kurt January 19, 2012 09:05 AM

Best bet when you go to dealer locator on premier horticulture call the rep and he will give you all the nursery suppliers in your area that supply it.The hydro shops have a real high markup on them.

augiedog55 January 19, 2012 12:00 PM

I finally tracked some down in KC. The grass pad stores carry it for 29.95 for the promix bx in the 3.8 cu ft.

dice January 23, 2012 10:46 PM

[quote]I don't understand why the company can't get their act together and keep availability (at a reasonable price) at major retailers.[/quote]

The major retailers actually have to buy it and put it on the shelf. 90%
of their customers are clueless and think any potting soil will work for
any kind of plant if you fertilize it and water it. 9 out of 10 of the other
10% buy the cheapest product on the shelf and pot up houseplants in it.

People who want a commercial greenhouse quality product for growing
vegetables in containers or starting seeds are probably a tiny, tiny part
of their customer base.

The garden department manager in a big box store may not have any
say about it, as well. (Purchasing decisions are made at corporate
management level, and the local department manager is only responsible
for displaying it and reordering when supplies run low.)

That would be my guess.

desertlzbn January 24, 2012 12:55 AM

Try to find a crop production services location near you. They carry many nursery supplies. The one near me, the sunshine mix #4 is about 30 a bale, and the #3 is about 35. Plus I can get perlite, and vermiculite, and I found out today that I can order the actvionate way cheaper than I can get it online.

kurt January 24, 2012 09:20 AM

[QUOTE=dice;250643]The major retailers actually have to buy it and put it on the shelf. 90%
of their customers are clueless and think any potting soil will work for
any kind of plant if you fertilize it and water it. 9 out of 10 of the other
10% buy the cheapest product on the shelf and pot up houseplants in it.

People who want a commercial greenhouse quality product for growing
vegetables in containers or starting seeds are probably a tiny, tiny part
of their customer base.

The garden department manager in a big box store may not have any
say about it, as well. (Purchasing decisions are made at corporate
management level, and the local department manager is only responsible
for displaying it and reordering when supplies run low.)

That would be my guess.[/QUOTE]The rep down here in S Fla says they stock up heavy cause all the Premier Horticulture plants are in some real remote areas in Canada and the Canadian winter hinders of thier production.Also he says the consumer in the big box stores do not buy 3.6 cubes at almost 60-70 pounds per bale.His mainstay business are the commercial nurserys,which we have a lot of down here,so more supply is directed down here.At my supplier he carrys it and has a constant supply.I assume up north no one grows anything in the winter so supply is not availiable until spring.I know it is not fare but if I was a nursery supplier I would not stock it if only a couple of people bought it once or twice a year.He did say it keeps well as long as it does not get wet so if you can find it stock up on it.

feldon30 January 24, 2012 09:26 AM

[QUOTE=dice;250643]The major retailers actually have to buy it and put it on the shelf. 90%
of their customers are clueless and think any potting soil will work for
any kind of plant if you fertilize it and water it. 9 out of 10 of the other
10% buy the cheapest product on the shelf and pot up houseplants in it.

People who want a commercial greenhouse quality product for growing
vegetables in containers or starting seeds are probably a tiny, tiny part
of their customer base.

The garden department manager in a big box store may not have any
say about it, as well. (Purchasing decisions are made at corporate
management level, and the local department manager is only responsible
for displaying it and reordering when supplies run low.)

That would be my guess.[/QUOTE]
Darn you and your rational argument. ;)

One problem was, it wasn't marketed or explained that the 2.2cu ft compressed bales of Promix were actually competitive on price with other products because, once you broke it up, it expanded to 4 cu ft. I bought as much as I could.

augiedog55 January 24, 2012 09:36 AM

So are you saying that the 3.8 cf bails of prom mix bx are going make 7.6 after i'm finnished watering and break it up.? I need to know so I don't throw my %'s off on the recipe I'm planning to use.
Thanks


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