Matt's Wild a slow germinator?
 

Hi, all! Everything but Matt's Wild is poking up. The batch was new, packaged by High Mowing Seeds for 2006 just like two of the other varieties. Is Matt's Wild just slower?

Val

If it is related to Mexico Midget and Coyote (two other wild Mexican varieties), it can be slower.

Thanks, Craig. I guess I'll just be patient, then. :?

Val

I've never had problems with Matt's Wild and not with most other varieties either.

The only one that can be a problem is the variety Mirabel, in my experience, that even with fresh seeds takes longer, actually up to about two weeks.

When germination is delayed my first thought goes to seed age and my second thought goes to just a bad batch of fermented seed which can and does happen/ It happened to me two years ago with a bad batch of Shuntukski seed that had low germination when tested by others.

And I haven't had any problems with any currant tomatoes or other cerasiforme ones such as Matt's is.

After all, IMO the cerasiformes and other species are most apt to be the ones that self seed themselves as a natural means of self reproduction.

one of the varieites I'm having a
"slow" time with is "Paul Robeson"

> Doesn't he want to come up
and hang with his buds ?

lol ~ Tom

I have tried Matt's wild cherry from three different sources. The first source did not germinate at all, and the other two the next year were considerably slower than any others. Without looking at my garden notes I think it is the slowest germinating of all the tomatoes I have tried.

Clay, interesting! Well, it's still sitting on the heating pad. It's only been 6+ days, so I definitely am not ruling them bad yet. I did finally take them out of the flat so the rest of the seedlings, which are all an inch tall, wouldn't be heated any more.

My Matt's were from Johnny's a couple of years after they first started listing it. No problem.

I don't get concerned about germination of any varieties at all until maybe 10-14 days have gone by.

Carolyn,

Thanks for that time frame -
much more relaxed about it ~ well ...
until about Weds. ! lol ~ Tom

My first Patio Orange (from Baker Creek) just popped its head up yesterday, a full 22 days after sowing. All of my seeds germinated slow this year. Stupice was the quickest at 5 days. I have had about 85% germination, but most took 7-14 days to germinate. On a bright note, I had 100% germination from my saved Black Cherry seeds, a variety that didn't germinate at all for me last year.

Joel5000 -

Now thats staying with it !
Good to hear the wait paid off
for you >
~ Tom

Patio Orange was 10 days later than all my other varieties last year too. I just sowed it in the last flat so will see what it does this year.
I had a group of dwarfs and odd ones planted last month and Orange Tree germinated in 3 days without bottom heat. I was amazed, it wasn't just an early bird but all 7 seeds planted came up at once.
Tom, Paul Robeson was one of my earliest last year to germinate, but the source was Sand Hill. I have had such high germination from Sand Hill, that this year I got cocky and planted many fewer than usual of the varieties I ordered from them. Hope it works!

Jeanne

Oh, I've got one of the Matt's Wild up this morning! That's exactly seven days for the first one.

Val

Glad I saw this about Patio Orange, I won't be worried if it doesn't come up with the rest. :)

A second Patio Orange came up yesterday, 24 days! I only planted 4 seeds (hoping for one plant), and I've now got 50% germination, but I'm not counting out the other two yet. They've definitely got some catching up to do.