New Big Dwarf
 

I found this one at TGS, and it was listed as a 60 day dwarf from before 1915. Looking elsewhere, it seems it is more commonly listed as a 90 day variety. Anyway, I took note of the parents and bought a pack from TGS.
Has anybody here tried this variety? I cannot find much here on it.
Thanks MO

I've grown it and would say it's a productive variety somewhere between both of those numbers. For a dwarf it has decent medium sized fruit.

Carol

Hi Mark,
I grew it outdoors in a bed last summer. One of the later ones to ripen for me, not until September in my garden. It's a nice tomato though, good size, nice shape, pink and tasty. Next to the GWR emerald giant the most productive of the few dwarfs I grew but a bit late for outdoors in my area. I think I would grow it in a pot next time so I could move it into the greenhouse for a few extra weeks at the end of the season.
I know taste is variable and subjective but for me it had a big traditional tomato flavor, not sweet.
Karen

I grow it every year. It is a great red beefsteak on a dwarf plant. I grow it in an "earthbox" and that speeds up the growth as the soil warms much quicker. As I recall, it doesn't come in early as Rosella Purple or Summertime Gold, but it certainly isn't as late as 90 days. I would say it is more like 75 days. I think you will be happy with it.

Mark I grew a row of 50 plants one year and I liked it.
Short stocky and about the only thing you need to support them is a stick.:)

One of the first to put on fruit which is good for yours and my growing season.
Yours because of the cold mine because of the heat.

Worth

Good taste, thin skin, productive, quite big fruit (around 350g - 0.7 lb?)
Prone to catfacing, disease magnet - needs dry conditions.
The disease part makes me not plant it anymore unfortunately, starts very well but just doesn't get far.

[QUOTE=nancyruhl;388185]I grow it every year. It is a great red beefsteak on a dwarf plant. I grow it in an "earthbox" and that speeds up the growth as the soil warms much quicker. As I recall, it doesn't come in early as Rosella Purple or Summertime Gold, but it certainly isn't as late as 90 days. I would say it is more like 75 days. I think you will be happy with it.[/QUOTE]



NBD is described as a pink tomato when I look it up. The ones I grew were pink as well.
Karen

Thanks everyone, I am going to try them in smart pots, two per pot. I will post the results. Thanks again.
Karen they are actually in an envelope now. (lol) Worth, it is strange how both of us has a short growing season.

One of the first varieties I grew after joining TVille. I was and still am impressed by this variety. Many of the Dwarf Project varieties has NBD in the lineage.

[url]http://www.tomatoville.com/showthread.php?t=2470&highlight=New+Big+Dwarf[/url]

It's a remarkable pink beefsteak. Love the flavor and fruit size considering how small the plant is.[URL]http://tatianastomatobase.com/wiki/New_Big_Dwarf[/URL]

I'll echo the others, it is productive and tasty.

I'll dissent. Grew it last summer in an Earthbox. Well grown. Biggest tomato was probably 6 oz; most 3-4 oz, "gnarly-looking" toms. (Size is basically the same as Dwarf Champion.) Perhaps it doesn't like containers? My seed was from a reputable source.
-GG

Produced ok, but everything was catfaced

I'm growing them for the first time this year too. Interested to see how well they do in a 10 gallon pot.

Irv

No problem growing NBD in containers. My seed source was

[url]http://www.victoryseeds.com/tomato_new-big-dwarf.html[/url]

Last summer I had two New Big Dwarf plants in the same self watering container.
I'm not sure, but this pot may be just 20 l in soil volume.

Difficult in the SE USA.
 

I have a wonderful plant but it looks like the fruit will be too late for my location. We've settled in for 90+ degrees in the afternoon and the 80's at night. I don't think I'll get too many fruit to set..

My plant is huge, well over 4ft, maybe 5 and growing. Before I planted these I imagined a cute tiny little plant that produces beefsteaks, instead it is a vigorous beast. Besides that, it also seems like it is not determinate either, growth is not terminating with flowers. Anyway, I am waiting to post pics of it until tomatoes start to ripen, there are about 30 or so set, cool plants for sure.

new big dwarf is an indeterminate plant. Last year I got gorgeous big pink beefsteaks from mine grown outdoors here in zone 3 it topped out at about 4.5 feet but was only stopped by the cold. Was a bit late for this area but it would be excellent in a greenhouse.

Karen

Thanks Karen, I am excited to taste one. I was surprised by the growth, A dwarf? lol I think they are really cool looking plants, will have to see how yield turns out.

ahhh new "BIG" dwarf :)

If I was selling plants I would only plant dwarfs. people love the look of the rugosed dark green foliage and the sturdy stems. They just look so "healthy" everyone says and it's true
Karen

I just ate my first New Big Dwarf tomato and am blown away by the flavor. It was one of the best tasting tomatoes I've ever had. Too bad my plant hasn't been more productive. I only have about a dozen fruit and haven't seen a new flower in at least a week.

I'll just enjoy what I have. This is my new favorite, but that's the third time I've said that this year! The other two were after eating my first Indigo Apple and then my first Sioux.

Irv

Agree with Alabill. Seems a late set here in Atlanta, as well.

@ Irv - as I am growing all three of those varieties (amongst others) I am really glad to hear that they should be tasty!!! I have 3 NBD plants with one in the ground and two in containers. They are around 3' tall now and have flowers forming. I got mine at TGS as well and did so because of the days till maturity that she listed. Usually she lists tomato plants that I can grow here in 70-75 days as 80-90 days so I assumed that this one would be more like 50 days considering the difference between her numbers (reflecting her climate) and my numbers (reflecting my climate). Oh well. I keep learning and even when I don't hit things exactly as I want I am still going to have some tasty tomatoes very soon and throughout the summer. :)
Pete :)

What is NBD
 

[QUOTE=amideutch;388255]One of the first varieties I grew after joining TVille. I was and still am impressed by this variety. Many of the Dwarf Project varieties has NBD in the lineage.

[URL]http://www.tomatoville.com/showthread.php?t=2470&highlight=New+Big+Dwarf[/URL][/QUOTE]


What does NBD mean? and is this a pro or con in its lineage?

New Big Dwarf pic
 

The plant is in a 10 gallon grow bag, and has quite a few 2-5 oz tomatoes set. I did like the taste, I will probably grow it again for fun.

[QUOTE=zeroma;420679]What does NBD mean? and is this a pro or con in its lineage?[/QUOTE]

NBD = New Big Dwarf the tomato variety this thread is talking about. :)
Pete

The taste of the fruit on mine has gone from good to excellent, sweet, juicy, and pretty too. The plant has set a lot of fruit, I think I will grow a few of these again next year.
I took one up to a guy the other day who grows about 500 plants, hybrids... you should have seen the look on his face when he bit into NBD. Of course I waited to give him a few tomatoes until after I got the major tour, taste test, and lesson on good tomatoes.(lol)

you should give him a tour (and a taste test) in your greenhouses. :)
meh... you seen one red greenhouse hybrid, you seen 'em all.
NBD is a great tomato and I am going to plant all dwarf varieties in my little garden greenhouse next year. The later ones like NBD should do well in there with the extended season and the 8 foot jungle I have in there this year is swiftly becoming an unmanageable tangle so I think dwarfs will work better in my little GH and I have seed for a number of varieties and colors.
Karen

[QUOTE=zipcode;388189]Good taste, thin skin, productive, quite big fruit (around 350g - 0.7 lb?)
Prone to catfacing, disease magnet - needs dry conditions.
The disease part makes me not plant it anymore unfortunately, starts very well but just doesn't get far.[/QUOTE]

This is my experience also; except I maybe get 1 tomato per plant if I'm lucky. I've tried growing multiple plants (containers, earthboxes).

It isn't even limited to NBD either, it is ANY plant with rugose leaves. Megabite, Totem, Bush Beefstake.

Mine start out beautiful, but the plant is tight and the leaves get so leathery. For those of you in hot, humid environments, how are you successful with this?