juane flamme
 

Does anyone know the background history to the juane flamme tomato ? I read it is from Norbert Parreira of France but does anyone know of any of the tomatoes in it's background? I am interested in where it got it's color and high beta carotene content. craig

It's shows it as a French heirloom at Tatiana's. [url]http://tatianastomatobase.com/wiki/Jaune_Flamm%C3%A9e[/url]

Look at Carolyn's Post here. It's number 5 in this thread. [url]http://tomatoville.com/showthread.php?p=250026&highlight=Juane#post250026[/url]

[QUOTE=Minnesota Mato;381074]Does anyone know the background history to the juane flamme tomato ? I read it is from Norbert Parreira of France but does anyone know of any of the tomatoes in it's background? I am interested in where it got it's color and high beta carotene content. craig[/QUOTE]

It was a fully stable variety when I got it from Norbert, just as were all the other ones I got, just as all the other stable varieties we know of numbering in the many thousands.

So nothing at all is known about its background. Almost all of the OP varieties we know of were originally accidental cross pollinations, where F2 seeds were saved and used and selections made and those selections carried out to genetic stability.

Is it documented somewhere that it has high beta carotene content?

If so I sure would put Earl of Edgecombe right up there as well, but I don't think that one has been documented as having high beta carotene content either, or has it?

Hope that helps,

Carolyn

I had it come up this year voluntarily from the year before.
Grew all summer and is now once again loaded with tomatoes.

I like flamme.

Worth

[url]http://treecropsresearch.org/files/2008-tomato-top-varieties.xls[/url] Here is a link that shows tomatoes tested and it came out number one in beta carotene and total carotenoids. I have been trying to breed a healthier tomato and I just wondered what parents were in its background that gave it such good qualities and such a good taste.
craig

I grew my very first tomato this last spring and it was Juane Flamme. I got the seeds from the USDA Grin program. They were extremely prolific plants and Delicious. When all of the tomato plants died out, Juane Flamme came back and produced another 15 lbs. at least. I had 7 plants. My freezer is packed full!!! Such a great tasting tomato!

[B][SIZE=3]Jaune Flammée [/SIZE][/B]

has been a good variety for delivering aromatics and flavor into my breeding work for almost 18 years. I can't even count how many ways it has been utilized in dozens of pedigrees of some of my best tomatoes. The standout this year was my Flaming Burst which originally was from it crossed with my Verde Claro. This past season Flaming Burst was a parent in at least a dozen crosses to test as contingency F-1 hybrids to best tested in several locations this winter.


The quality of the Flaming Burst is such that I sent a sample of seed to Thailand to test it for uniformity. If it is fully stable it will be in one my "Tom Wagner Collections" marketed widely. You can be sure that Jaune Flamme will be in many high flavored lines in the future.


Here is the Flaming Busrt photo I sent to one of my webmasters.


[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/hIIMM0S.png?1[/IMG]

It is a great tomato, but the name, Brilliant Yellow in French, is not correct, since mine were more orange.

Oooh that flaming burst looks great!

Cold snap today, 11-25-2013 I picked about 20 of these things from my plants.
Just in time for Thanksgiving.:yes:

Worth

Didn't know you were a vegetarian Worth.

Enjoy your Thanksgiving roasted tomatoes - the rest of us will be having turkey :)).

Linda

I'm going to have to grow this again. I grew it once quite a while ago and was not a fan. it was... meh... OK for me, nothing special IMO and I didn't grow it again ... maybe it was the seed I had??
I'll try it again with different seed because everyone raves about it so it has to be better than the ones I grew. (or maybe it's my area/garden/climate/soil/zone/taste buds etc.) Only one way to find out, grow it again and see.
Karen O

[QUOTE=Labradors2;381739]Didn't know you were a vegetarian Worth.

Enjoy your Thanksgiving roasted tomatoes - the rest of us will be having turkey :)).

Linda[/QUOTE]

Linda I'll have you know I am NOT :Pa vegetarian.
The tomatoes will go as a side dish with the roasted turkey as my famous tomato cucumber, kalamata olive, onion and pepper salad.:yes:
Toped with EVO black pepper and a good aged balsamic syrup vinegar

Worth

"Toped"? I haven't seen a toped salad in many years. Hope you enjoy it!

Worth,

Your turkey and salad sound delish (even if it is "toped").

Why didn't you invite me?

Linda

[QUOTE=Fusion_power;381856]"Toped"? I haven't seen a toped salad in many years. Hope you enjoy it![/QUOTE]

Topped a waste of a P if you ask me.:lol:
I'm going to go out and start the save the ((useles)) extra ((leter)) foundation.8-)

Worth

I tried hrd to typ "Worth" without all the useles extra leters and wound up with:


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:)):x:lol::no:

I wonder if it is because Worth is a huge belly laugh looking for a place to happen?

OMG, Flaming Burst is beautiful!! :roll: Kudos, Tom.

I really liked Jaune Flamme, which was very tasty and one of the "three out of ten" varieties that produced any tomatoes for me in a really really bad supremely cold and wet year. It was late getting started, but kept going into the fall.

The seedlings seemed to be affected by one or more seedborne viruses, though, and although I nursed them through it, the same symptoms seemed to be present in the next generation and were culled for that reason. (Looked like cucumber mosaic and/or some combo of mosiac viruses). I will have to find another seed source to get this one back in my bank of 'grow again' varieties.

Resurrecting this older thread, while I am waiting for the Jaune Flamme fruits to ripen.
Looks lovely - a very striking clear yellow/green with hints of that bright orange.

There seems to be another French tomato called Peche Jaune, one that looks like a cross of JF and Garden Peach. Any info on that one? Tatiana's tomatobase had no mention of it.

[QUOTE=NarnianGarden;422744]Resurrecting this older thread, while I am waiting for the Jaune Flamme fruits to ripen.
Looks lovely - a very striking clear yellow/green with hints of that bright orange.

There seems to be another French tomato called Peche Jaune, one that looks like a cross of JF and Garden Peach. Any info on that one? Tatiana's tomatobase had no mention of it.[/QUOTE]

Tania does have a page for it but not specific information.

Jaune Flammee, which came to the US in a huge trade that several of us did with Norbert in France in 1992 is very different from Peche Jaune, which goes by several names and is one one of the fuzzy surface ones, along with Nectarine and several more of that kind,

Two very different and distinct varieties.

[url]https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=peche+jaune+tomato[/url]

Above is a google search that will tell you anything you want to know about Peche Jaune.:)

Hope that helps,

Carolyn

Thanks! It was because of the fuzzy surface I assumed it might be related to Garden peach. It looks lovely on the web page where I first saw it.

People went nuts over Juane Flammee that I grew this year, they were loaded with hundreds of golf ball size, bright orange tomatoes, and the flavor burst was great, is great. Odd, the first several ripe fruits were not so good, kinda bland mushy, but did that ever change.

I need to give this one another chance I think. I grew it once and it completely underwhelmed me and I even gave my seeds away. Everyone else seems to love it so there must be something to it and I will have to have another go
Karen

[QUOTE=KarenO;423910]I need to give this one another chance I think. I grew it once and it completely underwhelmed me and I even gave my seeds away. Everyone else seems to love it so there must be something to it and I will have to have another go
Karen[/QUOTE]


You gave your seeds away?:roll:

I've kept every seed I ever saved since 1990.:)

Now you probably mean newish seeds in a packet, but the last seeds I ever tried to buy was in 1998 when that summer I grew out the varieties for photogaphy for my tomato book and found that my Dr. Carolyn seeds were AWOL.:lol:

I got them from Linda at TGS, and she refused to take money from me, but the intent was there, as thanks for all the varieties I'd sent her for trial.

Finally,just repeating that I loved Jaune Flammee from the first time I grew it which was, I think,in 1993,one of many....I just had to check sources in my book and yes, mine were from Norbert,b'c there were three others who also participated.

[url]http://t.tatianastomatobase.com:88/wiki/Jaune_Flamm%C3%A9e[/url]

Neil says he got seeds in 92 from Bill Minkey, another person who paricipated in that trade , so maybe JF was one he got and shared as we all did.

makes no difference, for all of us listed what we got in the SSE Yearbooks so others had access to them and I know that growing out all that were sent to me I sent many of the better ones to some seed companies for trial.

Carolyn

:) yes Carolyn, commercial seeds because I didn't like it enough to save any. My seeds were organic from the "seeds of change " line I believe. perhaps it was just the year but for me as I recall they were sweet and watery and boring but it was several years ago. I'll get some new ones and have another try next year. Maybe I'm a better tomato grower now than I used to be as well.
Karen

KarenO, please do! I can't imagine our garden without Jaune Flamme. We all just love them! My plant this year wasn't in the ground until May 27, so only 53 days and nothing is ripe yet, but the plant is very healthy and loading up with fruit. There are more tomatoes and blossoms than leaves, I think! It's one that doesn't seem to mind the desert heat, either (though I guess that doesn't matter to you in Alberta!):D

My JF plant is full of fruits and the first one is showing color. :) Looking forward to tasting this one, for the halth benefits alone :D

I bummed a plant off a tomato-manic friend this year. Investigations had led me to believe it was a tomato of interest.

[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/72qJfUdl.jpg[/IMG]

So far I say on a scale of 10.

Beautiful color -9.5
Very good fruit set -8.0
Early -8.0
Texture is meaty, not watery -9.0
Taste is fruity, not too sweet or too tart -9.5
Plant is trouble free -9.0

An 8.84/10
Definitely a winning tomato

Interesting that the fruit are not round in shape!

Linda

Mine are growing but still no colour change. I've been very anxious to try this one! Hope it's worth the wait! Mine are the same shape I think. I'll have to check!