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SpookyShoe March 1, 2019 07:06 PM

Morning Glories
 
I bought some Grandpa Ott seeds and want to grow them in some kind of container or hanging basket. I see photos of morning glories in baskets growing downwards. Has anyone done this? If I grew the seeds in a pot (placed up against a trellis), how large should the pot be? Full sun or partial sun? Appreciate any advice or stories about growing morning glories. Do they attract any pollinators?

Worth1 March 1, 2019 08:18 PM

This is interesting.
[url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morning_glory#History[/url]

PlainJane March 1, 2019 08:53 PM

Truthfully, whereas pollinators flit by and check them out they don’t really seem to feed from them.
Partial sun is fine and probably better if they’re growing in a container.
I’ve only ever grown them on a trellis; I’m intrigued by the idea of letting them hang.

SpookyShoe March 9, 2019 11:12 AM

Yesterday afternoon I roughed up the seed coats of the seeds by rubbing them between two pieces of sandpaper. I didn't soak them overnight. Whatever I did worked because the seed codes have been split. I'm doing to hanging baskets and a pot with Garden stakes in it. Wish me luck. Maybe people will post photos of their morning glories here if we're lucky.

Edit: Above is incorrect. I was dictating by voice and the autocorrect or whatever typed in that I didn't soak the seeds overnight when I did.

DonDuck March 9, 2019 12:10 PM

I've loved Morning Glories since I was a kid and my mother grew them on a fence and gate. They make gorgeous flowers. In a tomato seed trade a few years ago, a very nice lady included some morning glory seeds in the envelope. I let them sit in my seed bin for a couple of years and decided to try them in my garden on the garden fence as my mother did. They were beautiful, but they took over some tomato plants in containers near them. I kept cutting them back in hopes they would stay on the fence and leave my garden plants alone.


The first fall frost took care of what had become my beautiful morning glory problem. They returned in force when spring arrived the following year. I had forgotten how much seed they produce. I've tried to eliminate them from the garden for about three years but some of that original seed must have buried itself really deep in the soil. I'm expecting more to germinate this spring. I will keep fighting to free my garden from those beautiful morning glory's..


Everything has it's time and it's place, but a vegetable garden is not the place for morning glory's.

PaulF March 9, 2019 12:33 PM

Grandpa Ott are very prolific and should do fine in a pot...or anywhere else for that matter. We had them in a raised bed with a trellis. When we changed the raised bed to a turf area we got Grandpa Ott for several years in the grass. The trellis I leaned up against a shed and even though it has been five years the GOs still thrive in the rocks around the shed. They are beautiful and persistent.

ddsack March 9, 2019 12:47 PM

Good idea on the sandpaper, I'll remember to try that! I've soaked mine other years, but still get poor emergence sometimes. I've never grown in baskets or pots, just in ground onto a trellis. Last year a rabbit kept nipping a couple of the vines above ground level. They would grow back but too late to set flowers. As I recall, we had a frost just before the blossoms were ready to open last year, so I never saw flowers. Here in the north I have to get them in the ground early or they won't bloom before September.This is from a previous more successful year.


[URL="https://postimages.org/"][IMG]https://i.postimg.cc/pXrgqyVY/Morning-Glories1aa.jpg[/IMG][/URL]

Gardenboy March 9, 2019 02:33 PM

The picture above is called "Heavenly Blue". I have fresh seeds if anyone would like some. They grow wild here in south Florida. :)

Ozark March 9, 2019 06:28 PM

I've had the same experience as DonDuck reports, above. Morning Glories are beautiful at first but they're THUGS in a vegetable garden.

About 15 years ago I planted a pack of Heavenly Blue M.G. seeds and let them grow up my garden fence - they were really pretty. But, they've come up in that garden ever since as invasive, unattractive vines, and I can't get rid of them

The blossoms have bred back to tiny red things, and I don't think the vines are propagating from seeds, as for years I have removed all blossoms as they appear and the vines grow anyway. I think the M.G. plants grow from very deep thin roots that overwinter in the soil and can't be pulled out - they just break off if you try, and they come right back if they're sprayed with herbicide.

The only good thing about it is that as unwanted, impossible to get rid of weeds, they're not too bad. I've just learned to put up with the vines growing up and all through my tomato, pepper, and other plants.

I'm moving my vegetable garden to a new location and going to raised beds this year, and the Morning Glory infestation is one of the reasons I'm doing that.
:yes:

SpookyShoe March 9, 2019 06:58 PM

Oh my! I made a typo in an above post. I said I didn't soak the seeds overnight after I sandpapered them, but I did.

SpookyShoe March 9, 2019 07:03 PM

Beautiful photo ddsack! I hope mine are that pretty.

PlainJane March 9, 2019 07:43 PM

Good luck, Spooky, with your morning glories.
- Joyce

ddsack March 9, 2019 10:00 PM

I've never had Heavenly Blues come back as volunteers, I think because they mature so late here that the seeds might not be fully developed before they freeze. I kind of wish I did have that problem!
But I have a smaller, fuzzy pink morning glory that does reseed. It is much shorter, smaller leaves and very pretty blossoms, though I was disappointed they were smaller than they appeared in the ads. I grew some next to a border netting fence near my vegetable garden couple of years ago, and it has come back two years in a row, from self scattered seeds. I can see where it might become invasive if you don't pull the unneeded volunteers.

[URL="https://postimages.org/"][IMG]https://i.postimg.cc/Pf4LxyCS/pink-Moninglory2.jpg[/IMG][/URL]


[URL="https://postimages.org/"][IMG]https://i.postimg.cc/CLxRf8DS/pink-Morning-Glory1.jpg[/IMG][/URL]

roper2008 March 10, 2019 11:36 AM

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My favorite morning glories are the impomea nil's, they are Japanese varieties and don't
seem to be invasive. I don't grow morning glories anymore, but use to. Here are some
I grew in the past.

I tried a chocolate morning glory in a basket, and it was nice at first but then got to big and wild looking, maybe if you pruned it.

SpookyShoe March 10, 2019 12:45 PM

Nice photos!

MdTNGrdner March 10, 2019 02:36 PM

Dee, are those Split Second?

ddsack March 10, 2019 05:52 PM

I don't remember the name they had at the time I ordered them from, I think, Park seeds. But they do look just like the ones now called Split Second. I see Burpee has a ruffled pink that they call Cotton Candy, I wonder if that's just a rename. They both say a range of 4-7 ft vines, which is what mine were.


A wonderful source for 14 different varieties of morning glories is Swallowtail Garden Seeds. I also like their snapdragons.

SpookyShoe March 11, 2019 08:54 PM

Flying Saucer
 
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I saw this and had to have it! I'll be planting some containers.

PlainJane March 11, 2019 09:29 PM

Can’t wait to see pictures!

ContainerTed March 11, 2019 09:56 PM

I have mixed emotions about Morning Glory's. They are beautiful and they draw in all kinds of pollinators. They even seem to catch the eyes of the migrating hummingbirds that pass thru here. Now that's the up side.

But there is also a dark side. They get into my garden and choke out my beans and then they attack my staked up tomatoes and if I let them, they'll kill my tomato plants. They seem to want any high points in the garden and, so, they dominate the tops of stakes and any other supports for the other things being grown.

I was down in the garden area today and was pulling the last of the 6' stakes I use. Of the 150 or so stakes, and even though I cut them out all season long, there were 63 that had old dead vines from the Morning Glory "invaders" wrapped around and choking the poles. They are pretty. They are colorful. And they are fragrant. But for me, they are mostly a pain in the a$$. They might make reasonable compost if I throw in enough bovine droppings. :)

SpookyShoe March 13, 2019 01:44 PM

The Germination Queen!
 
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Four days ago I planted two hanging baskets of Grandpa Ott. Already they are up! Today I'll rough up the seed coats of the Flying Saucer seeds I bought two days ago, soak them overnight in water, and sow them tomorrow.

I had plans to sow zinnia seeds today, but it's very overcast and drizzly. Maybe if there's a break in the rain........

SpookyShoe April 5, 2019 11:19 AM

Grandpa Ott
 
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These plants are from the seeds I sowed earlier this year. I'm hoping the vines grow up into an old Bradford pear tree. I also planted some baskets of Flying Saucer and Glacier Star.

ddsack April 5, 2019 12:03 PM

Donna, what a great idea! I never thought of growing them up a tree.

Longlake April 5, 2019 04:08 PM

[QUOTE=ddsack;729021]Good idea on the sandpaper, I'll remember to try that! I've soaked mine other years, but still get poor emergence sometimes. I've never grown in baskets or pots, just in ground onto a trellis. Last year a rabbit kept nipping a couple of the vines above ground level. They would grow back but too late to set flowers. As I recall, we had a frost just before the blossoms were ready to open last year, so I never saw flowers. Here in the north I have to get them in the ground early or they won't bloom before September.This is from a previous more successful year.


[URL="https://postimages.org/"][IMG]https://i.postimg.cc/pXrgqyVY/Morning-Glories1aa.jpg[/IMG][/URL][/QUOTE]

I'm in your neck of the woods, Dee, and Heavenly Blue is always 'iffy'. Most years it doesn't bloom profusely until September, and we all know what happens then. So I have a mix of varieties, and Grandpa Ott's is always the first to bloom. Next up are the pinks, and the grand finale is the beautiful blue of HB...in those perfect years when it blooms well. Like the look of that double pink you have, very pretty. Happy gardening!

ddsack April 6, 2019 05:16 PM

Thanks, Longlake! I have tried a few other mixes of Morning Glories over the years, but keep coming back to Heavenly Blue. There are just so few really true blue flowers of any species to enjoy, it's worth the wait for me.

GoDawgs April 6, 2019 05:31 PM

[QUOTE=ContainerTed;729261]I have mixed emotions about Morning Glory's. They are beautiful and they draw in all kinds of pollinators. They even seem to catch the eyes of the migrating hummingbirds that pass thru here. Now that's the up side.

But there is also a dark side. They get into my garden and choke out my beans and then they attack my staked up tomatoes and if I let them, they'll kill my tomato plants. They seem to want any high points in the garden and, so, they dominate the tops of stakes and any other supports for the other things being grown.

I was down in the garden area today and was pulling the last of the 6' stakes I use. Of the 150 or so stakes, and even though I cut them out all season long, there were 63 that had old dead vines from the Morning Glory "invaders" wrapped around and choking the poles. They are pretty. They are colorful. And they are fragrant. But for me, they are mostly a pain in the a$$. They might make reasonable compost if I throw in enough bovine droppings. :)[/QUOTE]
They are so pretty but I'll just enjoy seeing the photos on this thread. Ted, you're right about it wrapping around everything. The farmers around here call it "bindweed" for good reason. Any time I see seedlings or young plants anywhere near the garden I pull them out but there are always a few that manage to get missed, bloom and make more weeding work for the next year. :lol:

SpookyShoe April 20, 2019 05:00 PM

Grandpa Ott
 
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Seeds planted in hanging baskets on March 8th. Yesterday I had blooms in both Grandpa Ott baskets. I like the red streaks.

PlainJane April 20, 2019 06:46 PM

Those look fantastic!

GoDawgs April 20, 2019 07:52 PM

So pretty. It just glows!

SpookyShoe April 30, 2019 06:34 PM

At my local nursery
 
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I took this photo today. This particular nursery is in a very natural environment. They look like Grandpa Ott to me.


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