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linzelu100 March 10, 2015 07:01 PM

What can I plant on rough new ground that is no till?
 
I cleared a wooded part of my land to add space to the veg garden. I can till it up, but it will require a lot of effort ripping out tree roots. I am only living here one more year and would like to avoid that if possible. The soil is soft and crumbly, a clay mixture for sure, but previous owners had horses back there so between the horse manure that broke down and the woods decay of leaves and such it is ok soil without ammending.

I figure I can plant pumpkins out there easily as they kinda ramble and take over without much work. Probably corn too, I was thinking potatoes, but I am not sure how easy they will do.

Do you have any recommendations on what breaks new ground the best?

TYIA

Redbaron March 10, 2015 08:03 PM

[QUOTE=linzelu100;456079]I cleared a wooded part of my land to add space to the veg garden. I can till it up, but it will require a lot of effort ripping out tree roots. I am only living here one more year and would like to avoid that if possible. The soil is soft and crumbly, a clay mixture for sure, but previous owners had horses back there so between the horse manure that broke down and the woods decay of leaves and such it is ok soil without ammending.

I figure I can plant pumpkins out there easily as they kinda ramble and take over without much work. Probably corn too, I was thinking potatoes, but I am not sure how easy they will do.

Do you have any recommendations on what breaks new ground the best?

TYIA[/QUOTE] Personally I would simply roll out the mulch and plant my seedlings. Couldn't be easier.

Similar to this, but instead of in sod, it is in newly cleared forest. [URL="http://www.tomatoville.com/showthread.php?t=26884"]Red Baron Project[/URL]

Stvrob March 10, 2015 08:32 PM

Sweet potatoes and field peas (Cowpeas). Low maintenance, should be ok without irrigation unless it turns out to be a very dry year.

linzelu100 March 10, 2015 08:55 PM

Thanks I wouldnt have thought of those. I'll be hand watering all summer :) Feel bad for me? lol

Tracydr March 10, 2015 08:57 PM

[QUOTE=Redbaron;456095]Personally I would simply roll out the mulch and plant my seedlings. Couldn't be easier.

Similar to this, but instead of in sod, it is in newly cleared forest. [URL="http://www.tomatoville.com/showthread.php?t=26884"]Red Baron Project[/URL][/QUOTE]

Hope your method works because I'm doing it this year on land that has been pasture for about 30 years or more.:D

Redbaron March 10, 2015 09:10 PM

[QUOTE=Tracydr;456107]Hope your method works because I'm doing it this year on land that has been pasture for about 30 years or more.:D[/QUOTE] I hope my method works too! I will be expanding it into an old abandoned farm this year.:twisted: It better work or else I will have spent a major amount of time effort and no small amount of money for nothing.:twisted:

Tracydr March 11, 2015 06:43 AM

My only concern is things with small seeds that are broadcast, like lettuce. I don't want to start in pots so I will probably loosen and rake a few inches in areas for that sort of stuff.

joepertsx March 15, 2015 07:40 AM

Gardening in Houston Area. Fungus is a big problem. Does copper interfere with beneficial bacteria such as actinovate, or Reglia? Is Serenade affective?

Mike723 March 25, 2015 12:39 AM

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Mike723 March 25, 2015 01:25 AM

[QUOTE=joepertsx;457202]Gardening in Houston Area. Fungus is a big problem. Does copper interfere with beneficial bacteria such as actinovate, or Reglia? Is Serenade affective?[/QUOTE]



Yea, copper-based fungicides are toxic to soil bacteria. I haven't used serenade, but foliar feeding with a fungal dominant tea (preventative maintenance) will also help ya with the fungus.

[QUOTE=linzelu100;456079]I cleared a wooded part of my land to add space to the veg garden. I can till it up, but it will require a lot of effort ripping out tree roots. I am only living here one more year and would like to avoid that if possible. The soil is soft and crumbly, a clay mixture for sure, but previous owners had horses back there so between the horse manure that broke down and the woods decay of leaves and such it is ok soil without ammending.

I figure I can plant pumpkins out there easily as they kinda ramble and take over without much work. Probably corn too, I was thinking potatoes, but I am not sure how easy they will do.

Do you have any recommendations on what breaks new ground the best?

TYIA[/QUOTE]

I'd top the plot with a good 2-4" of compost then drench it with a few balanced compost teas.
To finish it off I'd top it with some mulch - grass clippings, leaf mold, bark etc .. That should give the food web a nice boost and loosen the soil up some more.. You could also inoculate the pumpkins with some fungus - Good luck!
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