Red Robin
 

These are my Red Robin's. I have grown them for five generations. They are in air pruning pots and Coco Coir. I think Red Robin is an heirloom.

[QUOTE=BettaPonic;618014]These are my Red Robin's. I have grown them for five generations. They are in air pruning pots and Coco Coir. I think Red Robin is an heirloom.[/QUOTE]

I used to grow it in the winter near some sun, and it always performed well.

But as for it being an heirloom, after doing a lot of searching I can find no evidence for that,some even say it's an F1 hybrid.

[url]https://www.google.com/search?q=red+robin+tomato+history&hl=en&biw=1402&bih=788&site=imghp&source=lnms&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjFnL3uwpDSAhVCxGMKHW0-ACsQ_AUIBygA&dpr=1[/url]

[url]http://forums.gardenweb.com/discussions/2186583/save-seed-from-red-robin[/url]

Carolyn

I've got two growing right now. Stout, thick stem and deep green leaves.

[QUOTE=carolyn137;618905]I used to grow it in the winter near some sun, and it always performed well.

But as for it being an heirloom, after doing a lot of searching I can find no evidence for that,some even say it's an F1 hybrid.

[url]https://www.google.com/search?q=red+robin+tomato+history&hl=en&biw=1402&bih=788&site=imghp&source=lnms&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjFnL3uwpDSAhVCxGMKHW0-ACsQ_AUIBygA&dpr=1[/url]

[url]http://forums.gardenweb.com/discussions/2186583/save-seed-from-red-robin[/url]

Carolyn[/QUOTE]
From what I read it originated in 1945.

What's air pruning?

[QUOTE=BettaPonic;618934]From what I read it originated in 1945.[/QUOTE]

I'd appreciate it if you can tell me where you read that and post a link.

Thanks,

Carolyn

[QUOTE=carolyn137;618969]I'd appreciate it if you can tell me where you read that and post a link.

Thanks,

Carolyn[/QUOTE]

I can do better with finding info since in Googling I found out it was bred by Sakata Seeds as an F1. Please read the first of the garden comments.

[url]http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/74494/#b[/url]

Carolyn

[url]http://www.sakatavegetables.com/home-grown-vegetable/Tomato-All/Tomato-Cherry-Solanum-Red-Robin[/url]

Sakata sells it but I don't see that they claim to have bred it and it is definitely OP. If you look through their catalog ( just click on "next variety" on this page to see) any tomato that is a hybrid is specifically labelled so with the name thoughout their website. Interestingly they sell it in both their ornamental and their vegetable listings and it is unusual in not being a hybrid since most everything else they sell is.
Not sure if RR is an actual heirloom but it has been around for a while for sure and every seed company I have seen that sells it sells it as an OP or doesn't specify hybrid. I have grown it myself from home saved seed received in swaps.

Enjoy your little mato's they are very cute plants

I recommend to Check out the micro tomato threads here on TV Bettaponic, there are some busy breeders developing new ones, blacks, yellow, pinks, multi-flora, all kinds of things coming out of their work and they are often looking for folks to help with grow outs if that interests you.
KarenO

I will thank you.

Sakata says they are wholesale only but do distribute seed to many commercial places in many countries.

I found this link to be very helpful

[url]http://www.sakatavegetables.com/index.cfm/fuseaction/affiliates.main/index.htm[/url]

I clicked on the Northeast and found which companies sold Sakata seeds.

And yes,in an earlier link I addressed whether it is F1 or OP and gave a link.

And I also forgot to say that I found the place where it was said that it was an heirloom, but I'm not in the mood to go back and regoogle.

Carolyn

[QUOTE=carolyn137;618971]I can do better with finding info since in Googling I found out it was bred by Sakata Seeds as an F1. Please read the first of the garden comments.

[url]http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/74494/#b[/url]

Carolyn[/QUOTE]

Daves Garden says open pollinated. I have saved five generations of seed.
[url]http://tatianastomatobase.com/wiki/Red_Robin[/url]

Aha, I overlooked the fact that I had saved the link that said it was an heirloom,not,

[url]https://www.etsy.com/listing/470124617/30-organically-grown-dwarf-red-robin?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=shopping_us_e-home_and_living-other&utm_custom1=4556b9c1-c3ed-4ea2-9d83-eefd0663742a&gclid=CL3S-sfLktICFYmKswoddrAPRA[/url]

And that place is here in NYS.

Carolyn

The etsy site seems a little misleading. Red Robin is a pretty common variety.

[QUOTE=BettaPonic;619204]Daves Garden says open pollinated. I have saved five generations of seed.
[url]http://tatianastomatobase.com/wiki/Red_Robin[/url]

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Yes, and then I asked folks to read the comments that were made about DG saying it was OP, which gave a different perspective from some of those who grew it..

I think it's also good to know that when a hybrid is bred,and I'm talking about the earliest ones, that if the two parents are very similar then it's usually possible to get an OP out of it, as I did when I dehybridized Ramapo F1 to an OP and at the F3 it was already stable as Ed was noted as saying in this link

[url]http://tatianastomatobase.com/wiki/Ramapo[/url]

And yes,the two parents of the F1 are known.

Carolyn

Never mind, I Googled air pruning. I planted Red Robins today thanks to Heirloomtomatoguy.:yes: