Here is this year's list:
[U]Determinates[/U] Glacier Siletz Early Wonder Pink Early Siberian Sheyenne Mountain Fresh Sweet Tangerine (Burpee) Cosmonaut Volkov Legend [U]Saucing/Paste/Oxheart[/U] Coure Di Bue Mama Leone Siberian Pink Honey Amish Paste [U]Small Fruited[/U] Sweetie Black Cherry Sunsugar Gardener's Delight Bloody Butcher [U]Colored[/U] Black Giant Lemon Boy Pink Berkeley Tie Dye [U]Beefsteak[/U] Delicious Chapman Neves Azorean Crnkovic Yugoslavian [U]Slicing/Globe[/U] North Dakota Earliana Goliath Jet Star Chalk's Early Jewel Russian Rose I can add Early Annie, Defiant, or Burbank. What do your guys think of the list this year? |
[QUOTE=barbamWY;625534]Here is this year's list:
[U]Determinates[/U] Glacier Siletz Early Wonder Pink Early Siberian Sheyenne Mountain Fresh Sweet Tangerine (Burpee) Cosmonaut Volkov Legend [U]Saucing/Paste/Oxheart[/U] Coure Di Bue Mama Leone Siberian Pink Honey Amish Paste [U]Small Fruited[U[ Sweetie Black Cherry Sunsugar Gardener's Delight Bloody Butcher [U]Colored[/U] Black Giant Lemon Boy Pink Berkeley Tie Dye [U]Beefsteak[/U] Delicious Chapman Neves Azorean Crnkovic Yugoslavian [U]Slicing/Globe[/U] North Dakota Earliana Goliath Jet Star Chalk's Early Jewel Russian Rose I can add Early Annie, Defiant, or Burbank. What do your guys think of the list this year?[/QUOTE] I'm excited to see that you're growing Sheyenne, North Dakota Earliana, and Jet Star (F1?). I haven't grown those, yet, but I've heard great things about them (I'm not sure about for market, yet). North Dakota Earliana is on my 2017 list, too. In your area, I imagine early ones are probably best for market. I know in my area, people seem to want slicers and salad tomatoes most in June and July, and they mostly want the later ones for canning, sauce or salsa (which is not what most people online like the late ones for). Chapman seems like a good tomato for market. It's not early, though, but it's awesome. It's firm, perfect-looking, large (2lbs), and decently productive for the size. Lemon Boy F1 should work fine for market, if you don't get many cracked tomatoes (I got cracks on at least a few). It's not as productive as I'd like. I prefer Early Girl F1, but Lemon Boy is bigger. They're both heat-tolerant. Black Giant is a decent tomato. It may be a little soft for market, though. I'll be interested in your growout results for your list after the season. I'm very curious about how some of those do (e.g Neves Azorean Red and Chalk's Early Jewel). |
The list is for plants we sell at our sale. I have grown Neves Azorean for years and I love it. It is a heavy producer of big tomatoes and not one of the latest I grow. Chalk's Early Jewel I have only grown for about 3 years and it grows well. Chapman is a new one. Lemon Boy is a problem growing as a seedling. I keep telling our grower to start later. It gets leggy. I prefer Black Early over Black Giant, but it's hard to find seed.
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[QUOTE=barbamWY;625568]The list is for plants we sell at our sale. I have grown Neves Azorean for years and I love it. It is a heavy producer of big tomatoes and not one of the latest I grow. Chalk's Early Jewel I have only grown for about 3 years and it grows well. Chapman is a new one. Lemon Boy is a problem growing as a seedling. I keep telling our grower to start later. It gets leggy. I prefer Black Early over Black Giant, but it's hard to find seed.
Barb[/QUOTE] Oh, that's cool. :) Plants are awesome. I'm glad to hear that about Neves Azorean Red. I hadn't heard of Black Early before. It sounds pretty nice, though. I'm trying Black Bear, this year. I wonder how it compares to Black Giant and Black Early, except Black Bear is determinate. |
[QUOTE=barbamWY;625534]Here is this year's list:
[U]Determinates[/U] Glacier Siletz Early Wonder Pink Early Siberian Sheyenne Mountain Fresh Sweet Tangerine (Burpee) [SIZE=3][COLOR=red]Cosmonaut Volkov [/COLOR][/SIZE]Legend [/QUOTE] I always thought Cosmonaut Volkov was an indeterminate ?? |
rhines81, Territorial says Cosmonaut Volkov is determinate. Fedco says Indeterminate. High Mowing Seeds says Semi-determinate. I have grown it for years, but never paid a lot of attention, but I don't recall it getting very tall.
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I never noticed, either. CV yields like an indet, at least I get fruit all summer. Bradley is determinate, and behaves similarly. Maybe that's what 'semi-det' means, an extended harvest determinate.
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The Cosmonaut Volkov I am familiar with is indeterminate. But Territorial could have a determinate strain of it.
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[QUOTE=Fred Hempel;625647]The Cosmonaut Volkov I am familiar with is indeterminate. But Territorial could have a determinate strain of it.[/QUOTE]
I think it is shorter than most of my indeterminate heirlooms but I do believe it produces most of the summer so I think I will list it as semi-determinate. I think we could start a whole new conversation, as I just read an article calling Glacier a Semi-Indeterminate. Barb |
I am thinking of adding Atkinson and Dwarf Sweet Sue. What do you think?
Barb |
Hello All,
I thought I would update you on this years plant list. Many are the same reliable ones we have grown here in Northern Wyoming. Kimberley Bloody Butcher Glacier Early Wonder (pink) North Dakota Earliana Siletz Sheyenne Cosmonaut Volkov Legend Berkeley Tie Dye Pink Goliath Black Giant Lemon Boy Chalk's Early Jewel Green Zebra Mountain Majesty Chef's Choice Orange Marglobe Mountain Fresh Giant Belgium Russian Rose Chapman Amish Paste Heidi Kosovo (Replaces Siberian Pink Honey because seed is hard to find this year) Juliet Sweetie Sunshine Bumble Bee Sun Sugar Fargo Yellow Pear Dwarf Arctic Rose Dwarf Velvet Knight How does it look? Our selection is based on what has sold in the past and what our 4 growers want to grow. No one would pick Black Cherry or Chocolate Cherry that I suggested so I thought I would try some Dwarf Velvet Night. I have grown Dwarf Arctic Rose before. Anything we should add? Barb |
If you're looking for more suggestions, I would mention Kodiak Brown and Merced OP. Both are mid/early and really put of the load. I can also recommend Rutgers Select which is larger and more productive than the original Rutgers. For the adventuresome customers, I would definitely suggest Grandma Olivers Chocolate - highly productive and very large, and the taste is off the scale. You might also look at Bison for early, and for a hybrid, Pink Girl is my newest selection for dehybridization growouts. For the saladette size, the one I sell a lot of is "Campari". Huge crops of good tasting three inch balls of good taste.
All of the ones I mentioned above are either early or early/mid season. All are very productive and all are good tasting. Good luck on your marketing adventures. |
For flavor, I'd recommend Wes, a red heart. KBX is a reliable and tasty orange beefsteak. Amazon Chocolate and Indian Stripe do well as blacks.
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Azoychka. Medium sized fruit, compact plant, early and yellow, so it adds some color and variety. Plus, it tastes good. :)
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[QUOTE=ContainerTed;729309]If you're looking for more suggestions, I would mention Kodiak Brown and Merced OP. Both are mid/early and really put of the load. I can also recommend Rutgers Select which is larger and more productive than the original Rutgers. For the adventuresome customers, I would definitely suggest Grandma Olivers Chocolate - highly productive and very large, and the taste is off the scale. You might also look at Bison for early, and for a hybrid, Pink Girl is my newest selection for dehybridization growouts. For the saladette size, the one I sell a lot of is "Campari". Huge crops of good tasting three inch balls of good taste.
All of the ones I mentioned above are either early or early/mid season. All are very productive and all are good tasting. Good luck on your marketing adventures.[/QUOTE] Ted, I think Merced might be a good one for us. One of our growers of plants also owns the local CSA and I will ask him if he has grown Rutgers Select or the regular Rutgers. I grew Bison many years ago but do not recall how it did. I will look up Campari to see if it is an option. Shawn, I have grown Wes. It is a good meaty tomato. I do like Indian Stripe. Indian Stripe gives high yields for me. It is odd last year that Kellogs Breakfast did not sell well last year. So I am afraid to try to sell KBX, but will grow it for myself. I have not tried Amazon chocolate and I do love the dark tomatoes. Sue, Craig has mentioned Azoychka and I tried it, but had to pull it up due to disease. I will give it another shot. Thank you all for your input. I go back and look at this thread every year. I appreciate all of the suggestions. Barb |
How about Danko for your heart? It is often described as semi determinant and is listed as 61 days on Victory Seeds. I can't speak from personal experience yet, but am growing it this year. Reviews look very good and it has the story of brave Danko who tore out his own heart to save his people... what's not to like.
For an indeterminate heart, I have grown Fish Lake for several years and it is always the earliest large tomato in my garden. It also gets great reviews and I enjoy it and is what I've offered for my local PTA plant sale. I've decided to try some other hearts so am growing Kosovo, Danko and a few others to test this year, but I can definitely recommend Fish Lake for an early productive heart. |
Everyone's conditions are different, and actually, every year seems different for me, lol. But Sophies Choice and Azoychka are now my standards for early tomatoes. However, I use them to grow in pots away from the main garden. It allows me to have a few extra plants than I can fit in my small garden, but it also makes them even earlier since the pots warm up faster and are portable enough to move or cover in a cold snap. What might very well make the difference in my experience compared to yours, and an even bigger reason I grow them in pots away from the main garden, is that if I have a big problem that spreads in the main garden where they may touch and all share the same soil, they are isolated from it and I still get some tomatoes. Early, protected, and insurance. :) So to be honest, I can't really give an opinion on disease resistance in a normal garden.
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I just received another seed order with Chocolate Champion and Sweet Adelaide. I was planning on Dwarf Arctic Rose and Dwarf Velvet Night
Of the 4 Dwarf Tomatoes, I have only grown the Dwarf Arctic Rose. If I was to grow three instead of two, which One would you drop? Also a tomato that I do not see mentioned often on here is Bulgarian Triumph. It does well here for me but I am wondering if any of you have grown it? I am mulling over whether to add it. Barb |
[QUOTE=SueCT;729402]Everyone's conditions are different, and actually, every year seems different for me, lol. But Sophies Choice and Azoychka are now my standards for early tomatoes. However, I use them to grow in pots away from the main garden. It allows me to have a few extra plants than I can fit in my small garden, but it also makes them even earlier since the pots warm up faster and are portable enough to move or cover in a cold snap. What might very well make the difference in my experience compared to yours, and an even bigger reason I grow them in pots away from the main garden, is that if I have a big problem that spreads in the main garden where they may touch and all share the same soil, they are isolated from it and I still get some tomatoes. Early, protected, and insurance. :) So to be honest, I can't really give an opinion on disease resistance in a normal garden.[/QUOTE]
I like mano too. [QUOTE=barbamWY;730253]I just received another seed order with Chocolate Champion and Sweet Adelaide. I was planning on Dwarf Arctic Rose and Dwarf Velvet Night Of the 4 Dwarf Tomatoes, I have only grown the Dwarf Arctic Rose. If I was to grow three instead of two, which One would you drop? Also a tomato that I do not see mentioned often on here is Bulgarian Triumph. It does well here for me but I am wondering if any of you have grown it? I am mulling over whether to add it. Barb[/QUOTE] I'd take Choc champ and sweet adelaide. But that's mostly because I prefer the taste of those two over the other two. |
@BarbamWY any updates on next year's selection list? I loved following your sale choices!
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[QUOTE=hl2601;766570]@BarbamWY any updates on next year's selection list? I loved following your sale choices![/QUOTE]
I have been selling a few plants from my home since Covid and forgone the big sale with vendors at our big county building. Here is my pared down list: Sungold Dikovinka Gardener's Delight Napoli Slava Early Wonder Mountain Fresh Chalk's Early Jewel North Dakota Earlianna Sheyenne Legend Magnus Stump of The World Siberian Pink Honey Black Early JD's Special C Tex Sweet Tangerine Aunt Gerties's Gold |
Hasn't Covid just changed everything! Your pared down list looks terrific!
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