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goodwin December 26, 2016 02:02 PM

Hi Carolyn,

Thank you for taking the time to share that information. As I said, I got my seed from Dmitry Shlomin, who is a wonderful source of seed and stories, but didn't know anyone else who had grown it. However, the plants were productive, as usual, and the beaked fruits were popular at the market. I wouldn't describe 'Golden Canary' as a paste tomato. It is more a salad type. There is another variety from Russia, Buratino, which is similar in shape, but orange in color.
I don't see it grown much either, though it is a good one. I hope you are having a good holiday and staying warm!

Labradors2 January 2, 2017 12:09 PM

Merry Christmas everyone! The mountains here look like a Christmas card and it is almost time to think about the new season.
Our catalog is out and we added a bunch of new tomatoes, peppers, and corn. There are over 300 varieties now, all raised on our farm. So much for retirement! The 2017 catalog can be found on the farm web page.
As always, if anyone here would like a sample of something, all you have to do is ask. Jan and I hope all of you are enjoying being with friends and family and wish you the very best.


I think you should make some tomato Christmas cards! I'm sure lots of tomatoville members would be keen to buy them :D.


TC_Manhattan January 2, 2017 12:36 PM


I think you should make some tomato Christmas cards! I'm sure lots of tomatoville members would be keen to buy them :D.


This is an [I]awesome[/I] suggestion.
I for sure would order some!:D

goodwin January 3, 2017 10:22 PM

You know, that would be fun. Next week I start my first flats of tomatoes and peppers. However, I have a little time until then and before the seed orders begin to really pour in. I could include a greeting card with the seeds - not a bad idea.
A late but Happy New Year to you all!


MarinaRussian March 22, 2017 03:01 PM

Lee, could you please tell me the parentage of Wild Tiger and who is the originator? Thank you :)

goodwin March 22, 2017 04:15 PM


I'm the originator and the history is somewhat complicated. Danube and Wild Tiger are selections from a cross of a tomato I had called Dark Tiger and one of the Ambrosia lines. The Ambrosia lines came from grow outs of SunGold later crossed to a wild species. (as is documented somewhere here)
Dark Tiger is from Green Zebra ( a Tom Wagner tomato) and my Bosque Blue.
That mixture gives rise to the unusual color and the streaking of green in the flesh of the tomato.
Thank you for asking. It is always enjoyable to talk about tomatoes and I don't get here as much as I would like.

MarinaRussian March 22, 2017 04:37 PM

Thank you so much, Lee!!! Because a few of my friends and I have seeds of Wild Tiger from different sources. And there's also a range of pictures - stripes, anthos, pastes and hearts. So we're all trying to figure out if we have different tomatoes with the same name or if the Wild Tiger is still unstable. :)

goodwin March 22, 2017 07:14 PM

There must be some other tomatoes with the same name. The only variation I have seen in 3 years of maintaining Wild Tiger is a slight difference in shape. Some are fatter and some more pointed. That is the reason I still list it as a trial variety. I have only grown 6-8 plants the last couple of years. This season I started 12 plants and perhaps I should plant them all just to check.


MarinaRussian March 24, 2017 04:45 PM

Oh boy, am I anxious to see what we all get :love:

gill_s July 17, 2017 04:38 PM

Has anyone grown Vincent's White and found it not to be as expected?
I had 3 seedlings, one of which was potato leafed, the other 2 being rgular leafed.
I grew on the potato leafed plant. It was very productive but the tomatoes did not resemble the picture or description on the website. Thy are bright yellow and smaller, weighing at about 4oz.
I am sure hat i did not mix up my seedlings because I am growing nothing similar.

Salsacharley July 17, 2017 05:06 PM

I grew Vincent's White for 2015 and 2016 and they were consistent pale yellow beefsteaks. They were RL. They weren't giant but they weren't small either. I'd guess they averaged about 6 to 8 oz. I think Lee puts out good stuff, some of which might be a bit unsettled but overall I like J & L a lot. His Ambrosia lines are killer for me. I also really like Dark Tiger and Wild Tiger. I don't know what the lineage of Vincent's White is but I love the story behind it.

Nan_PA_6b July 26, 2017 12:32 AM


Today I tried to access the catalog [URL=""][/URL] and got a message saying I had to install something called Zen Cart before I could go any further. I've shopped there before without having to download anything. It seemed a little suspicious to me.

So I tried to email you. I hit the "contact us" button and my email opened up but the compose message had only "index.html" in the address field. So I can't access the catalog and I can't email you and some program wants me to download something. I'm not downloading anything without more information. Did you get hijacked?

I posted this in General Discussion and Bipetual said the same thing happened to him/her.



Bipetual July 27, 2017 12:27 AM

Lee, we can't see your catalog. Hope everything's okay!

Lasairfion July 28, 2017 07:35 AM

That's the setup page for his shopping cart programme. Essentially something has gone wrong with the catalogue page of his site, and it is pointing at an administration setup page instead.

The main site front page is still up at [URL][/URL] but we'll have to wait until he fixes his shopping cart. If you want to see their products, perhaps try using the Ebay and Bonanza links on that front page.

Salsacharley July 28, 2017 10:17 AM

I just spoke with Lee on the phone and he is aware of the problem with his site, but he's got so much going on right now that he won't be able to get it straightened out for a couple more days. He's got huge amounts of ripe produce to harvest by himself for this weekend so he has to deal with that first. He wants everybody to know that he appreciates the concern and is sorry for the delay.

Fred Hempel July 28, 2017 10:31 AM

Good News


[QUOTE=Salsacharley;657207]I just spoke with Lee on the phone and he is aware of the problem with his site, but he's got so much going on right now that he won't be able to get it straightened out for a couple more days. He's got huge amounts of ripe produce to harvest by himself for this weekend so he has to deal with that first. He wants everybody to know that he appreciates the concern and is sorry for the delay.[/QUOTE]

Nan_PA_6b July 28, 2017 10:46 PM

No problem; we'll wait.


goodwin July 28, 2017 11:57 PM

Thanks Charley. I appreciate the call and everyone's patience. Hackers got into the site and left quite a mess. All sort of files were damaged. I rebuilt the catalog on my home computer and need to upload it successfully to the server. I should get that done this weekend.
Otherwise it is tuning out to be a good year. The rains have finally started and I packed boxes and boxes of tomatoes for market in the morning, I think there are some 85 varieties ripe now. Once things are back to normal, I'll post some photos. I hope you all are having a great season and I look forward to getting back on T'ville to talk tomatoes.

Bipetual July 29, 2017 12:41 PM

Thanks, Lee. I'm sorry to hear you got hacked, but I'm glad it's nothing more serious.

Looking forward to buying some more Ambrosia cherry seeds even though I won't be able to do anything with them until next year!:lol:

goodwin July 30, 2017 07:50 PM

I believe I have things working again. There may be a gap in the customer lists, but I will attempt to fix that. There may be glitches in ordering. I won't know until someone tries, so let me know if you run into problems. The new link is [url][/url], also reachable from the farm website. Thank you all so much for your support and patience. We'll keep our fingers crossed.
Now I need to get out there and finish hoeing the chile before it gets dark!


Nan_PA_6b July 30, 2017 09:26 PM

Glad you're back!


MikeInCypress July 31, 2017 02:24 AM

I placed an order tonight and received notice that it was packed and ready to ship. So the site is working as it should.


Bipetual July 31, 2017 07:48 PM

Success! Yay!

Thanks, Lee!

Nan_PA_6b September 10, 2017 11:23 PM

Lee get hacked again? His email doesn't work.


goodwin September 11, 2017 01:58 PM

Hi Nan,

No, the website is still up. It's just the email server at GoDaddy never works properly because they are always changing things. I should set something up through Wordpress on the site. You can always contact me at [email][/email].
Anyway, I am busy harvesting a ton of seed. I have a number of varieties from the New Mexico State University chile trails and I also participated in the Rocky Mountain Seed Alliance ancient grain trials. There are cups of tomato seed fermenting on every horizontal surface. I hope in another week or two to make all this stuff available. Thanks for getting in touch. And thanks to Charlie again for a heads-up.
I hope you all are enjoying a good season!

goodwin January 8, 2019 06:51 PM

I've been out of touch for a while, but wanted people here to know our new varieties are up for 2019. For the last couple seasons I've focused mostly on native chile, corn and beans, but the catalog has a number of additions to the list of tomatoes.
We have quite a bit of snow in the mountains which means the acequias should have water to last the summer. It looks like it will be a good year. The best of luck to all of you in the new season!

Nan_PA_6b January 9, 2019 08:51 AM

Godwin, you sent me Wild Tiger a couple of years ago as a free sample. I grew them in 2018. WOW! The flavor is AWESOME! Lots of it, with sweetness and tartness and complexity.

goodwin January 9, 2019 01:53 PM

Thanks Nan - Wild Tiger is a good one. People really liked them at the Farmers Market. I have a couple more from that line I ought to release. [IMG][/IMG]
This is the Wild Tiger sliced.

goodwin December 12, 2019 06:00 PM

We have our new varieties for 2020 up at J&L Gardens. If there is anything people would like to try, you can contact me at goodwin'at' for samples.
Though I've been remiss in posting here for some time, I will feel the loss of this forum. It was my introduction to a number of remarkable people (like Carolyn) whose wisdom and patience I will always treasure. I wish you all the best of holidays and the best of luck in the garden this year.


DonDuck December 13, 2019 11:26 PM

Sorry, I posted on the wrong thread.

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