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KarenO August 14, 2017 04:49 PM

Vintage Canadian OP tomatoes
 
I am increasingly interested in exploring older and less well known tomatoes bred in Canada. The heyday if you will was back in the 50's and 60's and I am wondering who else might be interested?
This year I grew out 2 plants of Starfire improved, a vintage variety from the 60's developed at the Morden agricultural research station in Manitoba. Bred for the Canadian prairies, I was Pleasantly surprised by it's taste, health and productivity. and although determinate, it remains healthy in a cruddy small pot in my PNW garden still. Next year It gets a spot in the real garden because it was actually pretty great.
I will save seed and I would be interested in trades of other Canadian-bred tomatoes, particularly more obscure ones.
I also have a couple of others but very limited seed.
Time to start a collection :)

KarenO

KarenO August 14, 2017 06:00 PM

2 Attachment(s)
Starfire improved.
RL large determinate 70 days this year in bad conditions and a poor location. I would guess a week earlier at least in full sun in a garden bed.
A brilliant Scarlet red slightly lobed flattened oblate fruits about 4 oz
Plants are very productive and from my limited experience with them disease free.

carolyn137 August 14, 2017 06:40 PM

Karen,thanks for thanking me for the other sources for Canadian bred varieties,especially those from Quebec, but maybe some of those might want to know the place in Quebec that I directed you to,in terms of trades,etc.

[url]http://www.tomatoville.com/showthread.php?t=44879&highlight=seeds+diversity+Canada[/url]

Post #11.

The way I see it the more the merrier in terms of others helping out if interested.

Also the ones that can be found at Sandhill Preservation where Raymond Tratt from Quebec sent many varieties to Glenn since Raymond was like you,he didn't want those varieties to disappear and that's why I referred him to Glenn.

Carolyn, who is trying very hard to remember one she grew that had a gold stripe that was in the middle of each petal.I do hope I can remember that one, I know it had something to do with the High Crimson gene which was also used in breeding others from Quebec.

Heck, why not Google high crimson and see what I come up with and this is that

[url]https://www.google.com/search?q=High+Crimson+gene+tomatoes+from+Quebec&hl=en&site=imghp&source=lnms&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjIm4nl5NfVAhWExYMKHb5DC4cQ_AUICSgA&biw=1402&bih=788&dpr=1[/url]

BlackBear August 14, 2017 10:21 PM

[QUOTE=KarenO;660244]Starfire improved.
RL large determinate 70 days this year in bad conditions and a poor location. I would guess a week earlier at least in full sun in a garden bed.
A brilliant Scarlet red slightly lobed flattened oblate fruits about 4 oz
Plants are very productive and from my limited experience with them disease free.[/QUOTE]

Very NICE !

That's what Mine looked like in Saskatchewan ....LOL;)

but I had a not so impressive show in Campbell River in a cool year :|...

KarenO August 14, 2017 10:38 PM

[QUOTE=BlackBear;660284]Very NICE !

That's what Mine looked like in Saskatchewan ....LOL;)

but I had a not so impressive show in Campbell River in a cool year :|...[/QUOTE]
did they get diseased? I realize it has been abnormally hot this year here
KarenO

BlackBear August 15, 2017 12:43 PM

[QUOTE=KarenO;660287]did they get diseased? I realize it has been abnormally hot this year here
KarenO[/QUOTE]

No disease ....just not as productive on the cool (year) coast as the prairies

nice foliage .low to ground ...a few medium /large tomatoes......on the prairies

no problem ...LOTS of fruit ...(the problem was the first frost date of Sept. 5th ):dizzy:

I am interested to collect Canadian Vintage : Cold Set , and Morden Yellow .

I have Basket Vee cued up for next year.

I have been pleased with Canadian vintage : Kimberly, Sophie's Choice, Beaverlodge, Manitoba , Arctic Plenty , Johnny Jump Up , Russian Saskatchewan ... to name a few ....:yes:8-)

LDiane August 15, 2017 03:33 PM

The Prairie Garden Seeds site has a chart of Canadian-bred tomatoes organized by province

[url]https://prseeds.ca/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/Canadian-Tomato-Cultivars-Chart-Red.pdf[/url]

KarenO August 16, 2017 12:06 AM

[QUOTE=LDiane;660401]The Prairie Garden Seeds site has a chart of Canadian-bred tomatoes organized by province

[url]https://prseeds.ca/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/Canadian-Tomato-Cultivars-Chart-Red.pdf[/url][/QUOTE]

Thank you very much. I need to go through my collection carefully, I have quite a few I think.
KarenO

dokutaaguriin August 17, 2017 04:43 PM

1 Attachment(s)
[B]Early Lethbridge[/B]
see attached

[B]Vendor[/B] "was developed as part of a program to develop quality greenhouse tomatoes at the Ontario/AES/ Simcoe, 1950's, sturdy staking type, clusters of red, globe shaped 3" fruit are closely spaced along vine. VENDOR VF, Henry Munger/Cornell AES bred disease resistance into this Canadian tomato about 30 years later so that it could tolerate soil culture outdoors"

Jeff

KarenO August 17, 2017 05:44 PM

[QUOTE=dokutaaguriin;660707][B]Early Lethbridge[/B]
see attached

[B]Vendor[/B] "was developed as part of a program to develop quality greenhouse tomatoes at the Ontario/AES/ Simcoe, 1950's, sturdy staking type, clusters of red, globe shaped 3" fruit are closely spaced along vine. VENDOR VF, Henry Munger/Cornell AES bred disease resistance into this Canadian tomato about 30 years later so that it could tolerate soil culture outdoors"

Jeff[/QUOTE]

interesting, do you have seed for that Jeff?
KO

oakley August 17, 2017 06:21 PM

I'll be watching this thread...

Testing Scotia and Cabot this year.
I would like to try a few more next year.

BlackBear August 17, 2017 09:32 PM

[QUOTE=oakley;660721]I'll be watching this thread...

Testing Scotia and Cabot this year.
I would like to try a few more next year.[/QUOTE]

so How is the scotia going ...????:)

oakley August 17, 2017 09:41 PM

[QUOTE=BlackBear;660769]so How is the scotia going ...????:)[/QUOTE]

Should know more this weekend. Not a great tomato year in the Catskill Mountains.
Last year was the best of the past 15 yrs.
Crazy season as always. Never know how things pan out.
Grapes, fruit trees, summer/winter squash, fantastic. Usually tomatoes do great when
all those do well...

BlackBear August 17, 2017 09:56 PM

I was interested in Scotia as some places described it as a semi-determinate

and good for containers etc.

dokutaaguriin August 18, 2017 02:06 PM

[QUOTE=KarenO;660716]interesting, do you have seed for that Jeff?
KO[/QUOTE]

Hi Karen,
Yes, I will be offering both varieties for sale in the fall.
Jeff


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