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Rockporter April 3, 2013 12:55 PM

[QUOTE=GoGayleGo;338023]Does anyone know if the EB cage clips will work on a non-EB box? Specifically, an 18-gallon tote?

Or is the zip-tie method just as effective?[/QUOTE]

Hi, I use the zip tie method but have not tried that on 18 gallon totes. If zip ties are the way you will be going I found a reasonable priced place online to purchase the kind you can release and reuse. I am going this route next time.
[URL]http://cabletiesunlimited.com/cable-ties/releasable-nylon-cable-ties.html[/URL]

GoGayleGo April 3, 2013 04:50 PM

[QUOTE=Rockporter;338044]Hi, I use the zip tie method but have not tried that on 18 gallon totes. If zip ties are the way you will be going I found a reasonable priced place online to purchase the kind you can release and reuse. I am going this route next time.
[URL]http://cabletiesunlimited.com/cable-ties/releasable-nylon-cable-ties.html[/URL]

Connie[/QUOTE]

Bummer! I ordered 12" UV-resistant zip ties earlier today. I will definitely look into these for next year - thanks for the link!

Update: I canceled my Amazon order for non-releasable zip ties, and after speaking with the super-helpful person at Cable Ties Unlimited, will be ordering the [COLOR=#0066cc][U]RT11-50-0C-.30 [/U][/COLOR][COLOR=#000000]as it is evidently thicker and easier to release than the 0.19 width.[/COLOR]

Rockporter April 20, 2013 01:39 PM

2 Attachment(s)
:D :yes:
I have designed a whole new way to hold the cages on the earthboxes, the old way using multiple zip ties won't be used on my boxes anymore.

Items needed to complete the job.

Drill 1/8"
scrap piece of soft wood
Small Crescent Wrench
Yard Stick
12" ruler
Permanent marker-any color as long as you can see the marks you make on the earthbox
Bolts- Phillips Oval Mach SC 8/32 x 3/8"( otherwise kown as a countersink bolt).
Nut to fit-using 10 of each per earthbox
Washers-#8 using 20 per earthbox
Cable Clamps- 1/4" using 10 per earthbox-I did use some 3/8" cable clamps because there were not enough of the 1/4" cable clamps available in stock.

The photos below show the box using 3/8" cable clamps but I do like the 1/4" cable clamps better.
Zip Ties-8" using 10 per earthbox

The bolt has to sit flush into the base or you won't be able to put the zip ties in.

This design will only work for you if you choose to drill holes into the sides of your earthboxes. I used a washer on the outside base and inside the box to provide support and it is very strong. I don't think there will be any issues with this design but I cannot promise anything either.

This is a much stronger, tighter and nicer looking way to keep the cage on the boxes and if you use releasable zip ties you will not be cutting them off at the end of the season. You would just release and redo your boxes.

Step 1
Using a yard stick held up to the long side of the box make three marks on the rim of the earthbox- I used 4", 14" and 24". These marks allowed a good spacing between all three of the bases I added to the box on each long side.

Follow this same design on the short sides, only use two marks- I used 4" and 8" marks to get a good spacing.

Step 2
using a ruler placed underneath the lip of the box measure about 1.5" down and make a mark. Do this below each mark you made on the lip of the box.

Step 3
Using the drill, drill a hole into the hole of the base piece, drill through the padding and stickiness, do it quick because the sticky can come off and make a mess of your drill bit. This hole will be used to attach the base to the outside of the earthbox using the bolt/nut/washer. I placed the bases top side up on a board to do the drilling and made quick bursts of power to get it done. Cleaned the bit a couple times but you will get the hang of it.


Step 4
After you put the holes in all 10 of your bases using the drill, take one of your bolts and put it through the hole on the top side and hold there. Peel off the paper from the double sided tape attached to the base and place a washer over the bolt and press onto the sticky side. Remove the bolt and repeat with all 10 bases.

Step 5
Now take these parts and place them on the outside of your box at the marks you made, the tape will hold it on. Use your drill to drill a hole right through the middle of the base and the earthbox. I used a piece of wood on the other side of the earthbox to support the plastic while the drill did it's work. It worked well, there was no splitting of the plastic, only nice holes drilled.

Step 6
Now place your bolt from the outside in, add a washer on the inside and then place the nut on the bolt and tighten with a crescent wrench. If you are using the right size bolts you will have a nut that sits flush with the bolt end leaving a smooth surface. I was concerned about a longer bolt scratching me when I was reworking a box, and with the right length of bolt there is no chance of that occurring.

Step 7
Take one of your cable clamps and place it onto your cage, place it with the bent section pointed toward the cage, not away from it. You will understand when you put it on and basically it will look upside down.

Step 8
Take a zip tie and thread it through the bottom and top sections of your base and then thread through your cable clamp holes. Tighten the zip tie just a small bit so you can come back and adjust all of the zip ties and set the cage just how you want it.

This was really easy to do and I don't see any problems in the future with the design. My husband likes it alot, it looks nice and is very stable.


Here are the photos;

GoGayleGo April 22, 2013 10:04 AM

How do folks feel about drilling holes in the sides? Does anyone know how that holds up over time? My DH suggested it, but I resisted, thinking it would destabilize the boxes in the long run.

I bought long zip ties, intending to use them. Just got my boxes planted this past weekend, now looking to assemble/attach cages. So still have some time to figure out exactly what approach to take.

SIP Gro-Tubs May 23, 2013 08:06 AM

[QUOTE=rnewste;209944]Raybo

p.s. Now to find some miniature "C" clamps at Lowes to attach the four "L" bent one inch leg sections to my EarthBox.:D[/QUOTE]

[B][FONT=Comic Sans MS][SIZE=4][COLOR=darkred]Go to a Elecctrical contractors buisness and ask to see their different types of I-beam clamps. Bet you will find what you are looking for, and for Cash money most will sell to the general public at the contractors prices.[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][/B]

[B][FONT=Comic Sans MS][SIZE=4][COLOR=#8b0000]Terry[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][/B]

bdank May 23, 2013 08:30 AM

This is a really cool design, Rockporter. Did you put this on the earthbox forum? I'm sure they'd appreciate it there.

Rockporter May 23, 2013 12:12 PM

[QUOTE=bdank;350258]This is a really cool design, Rockporter. Did you put this on the earthbox forum? I'm sure they'd appreciate it there.[/QUOTE]

Thanks bdank, the cages are holding well and I like this design for sure, I wish I had thought about it sooner.

I am not on the EB forum anymore but you are welcome to post it there if you would like.

Rockporter May 23, 2013 12:17 PM

[QUOTE=Rockporter;342036]:D :yes:
I have designed a whole new way to hold the cages on the earthboxes, the old way using multiple zip ties won't be used on my boxes anymore.

Items needed to complete the job.

Drill 1/8"
scrap piece of soft wood
Small Crescent Wrench
Yard Stick
12" ruler
Permanent marker-any color as long as you can see the marks you make on the earthbox
Bolts- Phillips Oval Mach SC 8/32 x 3/8"( otherwise kown as a countersink bolt).
Nut to fit-using 10 of each per earthbox
Washers-#8 using 20 per earthbox
Cable Clamps- 1/4" using 10 per earthbox-I did use some 3/8" cable clamps because there were not enough of the 1/4" cable clamps available in stock.

The photos below show the box using 3/8" cable clamps but I do like the 1/4" cable clamps better.
Zip Ties-8" using 10 per earthbox

The bolt has to sit flush into the base or you won't be able to put the zip ties in.

This design will only work for you if you choose to drill holes into the sides of your earthboxes. I used a washer on the outside base and inside the box to provide support and it is very strong. I don't think there will be any issues with this design but I cannot promise anything either.

This is a much stronger, tighter and nicer looking way to keep the cage on the boxes and if you use releasable zip ties you will not be cutting them off at the end of the season. You would just release and redo your boxes.

Step 1
Using a yard stick held up to the long side of the box make three marks on the rim of the earthbox- I used 4", 14" and 24". These marks allowed a good spacing between all three of the bases I added to the box on each long side.

Follow this same design on the short sides, only use two marks- I used 4" and 8" marks to get a good spacing.

Step 2
using a ruler placed underneath the lip of the box measure about 1.5" down and make a mark. Do this below each mark you made on the lip of the box.

Step 3
Using the drill, drill a hole into the hole of the base piece, drill through the padding and stickiness, do it quick because the sticky can come off and make a mess of your drill bit. This hole will be used to attach the base to the outside of the earthbox using the bolt/nut/washer. I placed the bases top side up on a board to do the drilling and made quick bursts of power to get it done. Cleaned the bit a couple times but you will get the hang of it.


Step 4
After you put the holes in all 10 of your bases using the drill, take one of your bolts and put it through the hole on the top side and hold there. Peel off the paper from the double sided tape attached to the base and place a washer over the bolt and press onto the sticky side. Remove the bolt and repeat with all 10 bases.

Step 5
Now take these parts and place them on the outside of your box at the marks you made, the tape will hold it on. Use your drill to drill a hole right through the middle of the base and the earthbox. I used a piece of wood on the other side of the earthbox to support the plastic while the drill did it's work. It worked well, there was no splitting of the plastic, only nice holes drilled.

Step 6
Now place your bolt from the outside in, add a washer on the inside and then place the nut on the bolt and tighten with a crescent wrench. If you are using the right size bolts you will have a nut that sits flush with the bolt end leaving a smooth surface. I was concerned about a longer bolt scratching me when I was reworking a box, and with the right length of bolt there is no chance of that occurring.

Step 7
Take one of your cable clamps and place it onto your cage, place it with the bent section pointed toward the cage, not away from it. You will understand when you put it on and basically it will look upside down.

Step 8
Take a zip tie and thread it through the bottom and top sections of your base and then thread through your cable clamp holes. Tighten the zip tie just a small bit so you can come back and adjust all of the zip ties and set the cage just how you want it.

This was really easy to do and I don't see any problems in the future with the design. My husband likes it alot, it looks nice and is very stable.


Here are the photos;[/QUOTE]

Oops, this is missing a key piece on the list of needed items. Cable tie bases can be purchased at Lowe's and are right next to the cable ties. They come in black and white, the black would be better suited for outdoors.

Rockporter July 16, 2013 03:21 PM

Update to the parts needed for this design
 
[COLOR=black]Below is my original post, couldn't figure out how to quote it so I copied and pasted. See the update below for parts needed to build the system.[/COLOR]

[COLOR=sienna]I have designed a whole new way to hold the cages on the earthboxes, the old way using multiple zip ties won't be used on my boxes anymore. [/COLOR]

[COLOR=sienna]Items needed to complete the job.[/COLOR]

[COLOR=sienna]Drill 1/8"[/COLOR]
[COLOR=sienna]scrap piece of soft wood[/COLOR]
[COLOR=sienna]Small Crescent Wrench[/COLOR]
[COLOR=sienna]Yard Stick[/COLOR]
[COLOR=sienna]12" ruler[/COLOR]
[COLOR=sienna]Permanent marker-any color as long as you can see the marks you make on the earthbox[/COLOR]
[COLOR=sienna]Bolts- Phillips Oval Mach SC 8/32 x 3/8"( otherwise kown as a countersink bolt). [/COLOR]
[COLOR=sienna]Nut to fit-using 10 of each per earthbox[/COLOR]
[COLOR=sienna]Washers-#8 using 20 per earthbox[/COLOR]
[COLOR=red]4 way cable mount with screw hole-1" 10 per earthbox-added here because I forgot to add to the original list.[/COLOR]
[COLOR=sienna]Cable clamps-1/4" using 10 per earthbox-I did use some 3/8" cable clamps because there were not enough of the 1/4" cable clamps available in stock.[/COLOR]

[COLOR=sienna]The photos below show the box using 3/8" cable clamps but I do like the 1/4" cable clamps better. [/COLOR]
[COLOR=sienna]Zip Ties-8" using 10 per earthbox[/COLOR]

[COLOR=sienna]The bolt has to sit flush into the base or you won't be able to put the zip ties in.[/COLOR]

[COLOR=sienna]This design will only work for you if you choose to drill holes into the sides of your earthboxes. I used a washer on the outside base and inside the box to provide support and it is very strong. I don't think there will be any issues with this design but I cannot promise anything either. [/COLOR]

[COLOR=sienna]This is a much stronger, tighter and nicer looking way to keep the cage on the boxes and if you use releasable zip ties you will not be cutting them off at the end of the season. You would just release and redo your boxes. [/COLOR]

[COLOR=sienna]Step 1[/COLOR]
[COLOR=sienna]Using a yard stick held up to the long side of the box make three marks on the rim of the earthbox- I used 4", 14" and 24". These marks allowed a good spacing between all three of the bases I added to the box on each long side.[/COLOR]

[COLOR=sienna]Follow this same design on the short sides, only use two marks- I used 4" and 8" marks to get a good spacing.[/COLOR]

[COLOR=sienna]Step 2[/COLOR]
[COLOR=sienna]using a ruler placed underneath the lip of the box measure about 1.5" down and make a mark. Do this below each mark you made on the lip of the box.[/COLOR]

[COLOR=sienna]Step 3[/COLOR]
[COLOR=sienna]Using the drill, drill a hole into the hole of the base piece, drill through the padding and stickiness, do it quick because the sticky can come off and make a mess of your drill bit. This hole will be used to attach the base to the outside of the earthbox using the bolt/nut/washer. I placed the bases top side up on a board to do the drilling and made quick bursts of power to get it done. Cleaned the bit a couple times but you will get the hang of it.[/COLOR]


[COLOR=sienna]Step 4[/COLOR]
[COLOR=sienna]After you put the holes in all 10 of your bases using the drill, take one of your bolts and put it through the hole on the top side and hold there. Peel off the paper from the double sided tape attached to the base and place a washer over the bolt and press onto the sticky side. Remove the bolt and repeat with all 10 bases.[/COLOR]

[COLOR=sienna]Step 5[/COLOR]
[COLOR=sienna]Now take these parts and place them on the outside of your box at the marks you made, the tape will hold it on. Use your drill to drill a hole right through the middle of the base and the earthbox. I used a piece of wood on the other side of the earthbox to support the plastic while the drill did it's work. It worked well, there was no splitting of the plastic, only nice holes drilled.[/COLOR]

[COLOR=sienna]Step 6[/COLOR]
[COLOR=sienna]Now place your bolt from the outside in, add a washer on the inside and then place the nut on the bolt and tighten with a crescent wrench. If you are using the right size bolts you will have a nut that sits flush with the bolt end leaving a smooth surface. I was concerned about a longer bolt scratching me when I was reworking a box, and with the right length of bolt there is no chance of that occurring. [/COLOR]

[COLOR=sienna]Step 7[/COLOR]
[COLOR=sienna]Take one of your cable clamps and place it onto your cage, place it with the bent section pointed toward the cage, not away from it. You will understand when you put it on and basically it will look upside down.[/COLOR]

[COLOR=sienna]Step 8[/COLOR]
[COLOR=sienna]Take a zip tie and thread it through the bottom and top sections of your base and then thread through your cable clamp holes. Tighten the zip tie just a small bit so you can come back and adjust all of the zip ties and set the cage just how you want it.[/COLOR]

[COLOR=sienna]This was really easy to do and I don't see any problems in the future with the design. My husband likes it alot, it looks nice and is very stable. [/COLOR]


[COLOR=sienna]Here are the photos; [/COLOR]
[COLOR=sienna]Attached Thumbnails[/COLOR][URL="http://www.tomatoville.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=32843&d=1366509398"][COLOR=sienna][IMG]http://www.tomatoville.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=32843&stc=1&thumb=1&d=1366509398[/IMG][/COLOR][/URL][URL="http://www.tomatoville.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=32844&d=1366509398"][COLOR=sienna][IMG]http://www.tomatoville.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=32844&stc=1&thumb=1&d=1366509398[/IMG][/COLOR][/URL]


[QUOTE=Rockporter;350324]Oops, this is missing a key piece on the list of needed items. Cable tie bases can be purchased at Lowe's and are right next to the cable ties. They come in black and white, the black would be better suited for outdoors.[/QUOTE]

[COLOR=red]I have spoken to Cable Ties Unlimited and have confirmed the parts that can be purchased from them for a reasonable price are,[/COLOR]

[COLOR=red]1. Cable ties-releasable[/COLOR]
[COLOR=red]item #[/COLOR][URL="http://cabletiesunlimited.com/releasable-nylon-cable-ties-481.html"][COLOR=red]RT8-50-0C-.19[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=red]=7.87" cable ties=100 pcs[/COLOR]
[COLOR=red]NOTE: You must use the .19 sized zip ties-the .30 will not fit through the cable mounts per Cable Ties Unlimited.[/COLOR]

[COLOR=red]2. 4-Way Adhesive Cable Mount w/Screw Hole[/COLOR]
[COLOR=red]item # [/COLOR][URL="http://cabletiesunlimited.com/4-way-adhesive-cable-mount.html"][COLOR=red]CM100-0C[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=red]=the square black mounts you drill a hole through=100 pcs[/COLOR]

[COLOR=red]3. Heavy Duty cable clamp[/COLOR]
[COLOR=red]item# [/COLOR][URL="http://cabletiesunlimited.com/heavy-duty-cable-clamps.html"][COLOR=red]1/4" Black Heavy Duty Cable Clamp[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=red]=this clamp goes around the cage and the cable tie is strung through the holes in the clamp=100 pcs. [/COLOR]

[COLOR=red]To make one cage setup on an Earth box requires 10 pieces of each item so you have what is needed for 10 Earth boxes or other containers using 10 points of connection. Smaller containers would need less depending on the size of container.[/COLOR]

[COLOR=red]The other parts needed for the cage setup should be purchased where you can find them. I will keep searching for a bulk purchase place for them and post if I find it.[/COLOR]

Rockporter July 16, 2013 03:26 PM

Oh, I must say that I have had zero problems with this design on my Earthboxes and will take the cages off soon, so I wanted to purchase the releasable zip ties to aid in ease of use, no cutting off zip ties and less expense overall.

Winemaker September 25, 2013 01:22 PM

Harbor Freight has 1 inch miniature C-Clamps for $1.99.
[url]http://www.harborfreight.com/catalogsearch/result/index/?p=3&q=clamps[/url]

brian1269 April 5, 2015 02:32 AM

[QUOTE=Rockporter;364167][COLOR=black]Below is my original post, couldn't figure out how to quote it so I copied and pasted. See the update below for parts needed to build the system.[/COLOR]

[COLOR=sienna]I have designed a whole new way to hold the cages on the earthboxes, the old way using multiple zip ties won't be used on my boxes anymore. [/COLOR]

[COLOR=sienna]Items needed to complete the job.[/COLOR]

[COLOR=sienna]Drill 1/8"[/COLOR]
[COLOR=sienna]scrap piece of soft wood[/COLOR]
[COLOR=sienna]Small Crescent Wrench[/COLOR]
[COLOR=sienna]Yard Stick[/COLOR]
[COLOR=sienna]12" ruler[/COLOR]
[COLOR=sienna]Permanent marker-any color as long as you can see the marks you make on the earthbox[/COLOR]
[COLOR=sienna]Bolts- Phillips Oval Mach SC 8/32 x 3/8"( otherwise kown as a countersink bolt). [/COLOR]
[COLOR=sienna]Nut to fit-using 10 of each per earthbox[/COLOR]
[COLOR=sienna]Washers-#8 using 20 per earthbox[/COLOR]
[COLOR=red]4 way cable mount with screw hole-1" 10 per earthbox-added here because I forgot to add to the original list.[/COLOR]
[COLOR=sienna]Cable clamps-1/4" using 10 per earthbox-I did use some 3/8" cable clamps because there were not enough of the 1/4" cable clamps available in stock.[/COLOR]

[COLOR=sienna]The photos below show the box using 3/8" cable clamps but I do like the 1/4" cable clamps better. [/COLOR]
[COLOR=sienna]Zip Ties-8" using 10 per earthbox[/COLOR]

[COLOR=sienna]The bolt has to sit flush into the base or you won't be able to put the zip ties in.[/COLOR]

[COLOR=sienna]This design will only work for you if you choose to drill holes into the sides of your earthboxes. I used a washer on the outside base and inside the box to provide support and it is very strong. I don't think there will be any issues with this design but I cannot promise anything either. [/COLOR]

[COLOR=sienna]This is a much stronger, tighter and nicer looking way to keep the cage on the boxes and if you use releasable zip ties you will not be cutting them off at the end of the season. You would just release and redo your boxes. [/COLOR]

[COLOR=sienna]Step 1[/COLOR]
[COLOR=sienna]Using a yard stick held up to the long side of the box make three marks on the rim of the earthbox- I used 4", 14" and 24". These marks allowed a good spacing between all three of the bases I added to the box on each long side.[/COLOR]

[COLOR=sienna]Follow this same design on the short sides, only use two marks- I used 4" and 8" marks to get a good spacing.[/COLOR]

[COLOR=sienna]Step 2[/COLOR]
[COLOR=sienna]using a ruler placed underneath the lip of the box measure about 1.5" down and make a mark. Do this below each mark you made on the lip of the box.[/COLOR]

[COLOR=sienna]Step 3[/COLOR]
[COLOR=sienna]Using the drill, drill a hole into the hole of the base piece, drill through the padding and stickiness, do it quick because the sticky can come off and make a mess of your drill bit. This hole will be used to attach the base to the outside of the earthbox using the bolt/nut/washer. I placed the bases top side up on a board to do the drilling and made quick bursts of power to get it done. Cleaned the bit a couple times but you will get the hang of it.[/COLOR]


[COLOR=sienna]Step 4[/COLOR]
[COLOR=sienna]After you put the holes in all 10 of your bases using the drill, take one of your bolts and put it through the hole on the top side and hold there. Peel off the paper from the double sided tape attached to the base and place a washer over the bolt and press onto the sticky side. Remove the bolt and repeat with all 10 bases.[/COLOR]

[COLOR=sienna]Step 5[/COLOR]
[COLOR=sienna]Now take these parts and place them on the outside of your box at the marks you made, the tape will hold it on. Use your drill to drill a hole right through the middle of the base and the earthbox. I used a piece of wood on the other side of the earthbox to support the plastic while the drill did it's work. It worked well, there was no splitting of the plastic, only nice holes drilled.[/COLOR]

[COLOR=sienna]Step 6[/COLOR]
[COLOR=sienna]Now place your bolt from the outside in, add a washer on the inside and then place the nut on the bolt and tighten with a crescent wrench. If you are using the right size bolts you will have a nut that sits flush with the bolt end leaving a smooth surface. I was concerned about a longer bolt scratching me when I was reworking a box, and with the right length of bolt there is no chance of that occurring. [/COLOR]

[COLOR=sienna]Step 7[/COLOR]
[COLOR=sienna]Take one of your cable clamps and place it onto your cage, place it with the bent section pointed toward the cage, not away from it. You will understand when you put it on and basically it will look upside down.[/COLOR]

[COLOR=sienna]Step 8[/COLOR]
[COLOR=sienna]Take a zip tie and thread it through the bottom and top sections of your base and then thread through your cable clamp holes. Tighten the zip tie just a small bit so you can come back and adjust all of the zip ties and set the cage just how you want it.[/COLOR]

[COLOR=sienna]This was really easy to do and I don't see any problems in the future with the design. My husband likes it alot, it looks nice and is very stable. [/COLOR]


[COLOR=sienna]Here are the photos; [/COLOR]
[COLOR=sienna]Attached Thumbnails[/COLOR][URL="http://www.tomatoville.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=32843&d=1366509398"][COLOR=sienna][IMG]http://www.tomatoville.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=32843&stc=1&thumb=1&d=1366509398[/IMG][/COLOR][/URL][URL="http://www.tomatoville.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=32844&d=1366509398"][COLOR=sienna][IMG]http://www.tomatoville.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=32844&stc=1&thumb=1&d=1366509398[/IMG][/COLOR][/URL]




[COLOR=red]I have spoken to Cable Ties Unlimited and have confirmed the parts that can be purchased from them for a reasonable price are,[/COLOR]

[COLOR=red]1. Cable ties-releasable[/COLOR]
[COLOR=red]item #[/COLOR][URL="http://cabletiesunlimited.com/releasable-nylon-cable-ties-481.html"][COLOR=red]RT8-50-0C-.19[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=red]=7.87" cable ties=100 pcs[/COLOR]
[COLOR=red]NOTE: You must use the .19 sized zip ties-the .30 will not fit through the cable mounts per Cable Ties Unlimited.[/COLOR]

[COLOR=red]2. 4-Way Adhesive Cable Mount w/Screw Hole[/COLOR]
[COLOR=red]item # [/COLOR][URL="http://cabletiesunlimited.com/4-way-adhesive-cable-mount.html"][COLOR=red]CM100-0C[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=red]=the square black mounts you drill a hole through=100 pcs[/COLOR]

[COLOR=red]3. Heavy Duty cable clamp[/COLOR]
[COLOR=red]item# [/COLOR][URL="http://cabletiesunlimited.com/heavy-duty-cable-clamps.html"][COLOR=red]1/4" Black Heavy Duty Cable Clamp[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=red]=this clamp goes around the cage and the cable tie is strung through the holes in the clamp=100 pcs. [/COLOR]

[COLOR=red]To make one cage setup on an Earth box requires 10 pieces of each item so you have what is needed for 10 Earth boxes or other containers using 10 points of connection. Smaller containers would need less depending on the size of container.[/COLOR]

[COLOR=red]The other parts needed for the cage setup should be purchased where you can find them. I will keep searching for a bulk purchase place for them and post if I find it.[/COLOR][/QUOTE]

So Rockporter, have you used this system the past two seasons? How has it held up? Any problems, any improvements you have made?

Rockporter April 7, 2015 03:31 AM

[QUOTE=brian1269;462372]So Rockporter, have you used this system the past two seasons? How has it held up? Any problems, any improvements you have made?[/QUOTE]

No problems other than the black connectors lose their sticky and fall off. It's easy to replace them though! :D

brian1269 April 7, 2015 03:18 PM

[QUOTE=Rockporter;462806]No problems other than the black connectors lose their sticky and fall off. It's easy to replace them though! :D[/QUOTE]

The black connectors? Do you mean the cable mounts? I thought those were bolted on.

rnewste April 7, 2015 03:28 PM

You could just drill a small hole under the lip of the EarthBox to feed the cable tie through. This should not affect the structural integrity of the EarthBox, in my opinion.

Raybo;)

Rockporter April 7, 2015 06:18 PM

[QUOTE=brian1269;462911]The black connectors? Do you mean the cable mounts? I thought those were bolted on.[/QUOTE]

Yes the cable mounts are bolted on, but the adhesive from the cable mount loses it's sticky strength and then swivels around. You can't tighten the nut and bolt too tight on the box, just snug enough!

Rockporter April 7, 2015 06:21 PM

[QUOTE=rnewste;462915]You could just drill a small hole under the lip of the EarthBox to feed the cable tie through. This should not affect the structural integrity of the EarthBox, in my opinion.

Raybo;)[/QUOTE]

I wanted to do the same thing but my experience with tying cable ties to homemade boxes gave me experience that there wasn't any support around the hole when the cable tie was tightened extremely tight resulting in broken plastic. I do understand the Earthbox is much stronger than a plastic storage container but I didn't want to risk damaging the box and causing a crack in the edge of it. :)

brian1269 April 7, 2015 11:50 PM

[QUOTE=Rockporter;462961]Yes the cable mounts are bolted on, but the adhesive from the cable mount loses it's sticky strength and then swivels around. You can't tighten the nut and bolt too tight on the box, just snug enough![/QUOTE]

OK got it. I thought the mount was one solid piece.

hl2601 March 14, 2018 10:41 AM

Bumping this. Ray's original pics are no longer available to see the finished products. Has anyone got pictures they would be willing to share? Also, did the Gurney's or Burpees pea cages work best? Since this is an old thread not all the links are currently carried products. Wondering if anyone has built these recently for their new Earth boxes?

Rockporter March 14, 2018 11:19 AM

I don't see why the pea cages wouldn't work, mine are still in great shape even though I used them on earthboxes, not raybo's earthtainers.

What links are you interested in?

hl2601 March 14, 2018 12:22 PM

No,maybe my writing was unclear. I am sure these cages work really well! Great ideas... I would like to amass the components now to start making them even though I don't need them until May. I was talking about some of the links not working in the thread kind people posted to purchase their components. The Gurneys link leads to a mole product and the link for the clamps didn't work because the thread was from so long ago. I just wondered if anyone had pictures or more current links they had used.
Heide

Rockporter March 14, 2018 01:50 PM

Here you go. Got your wire rope clips link by looking at my old order confirmation. They are still the same price as when I bought them so long ago. If you order the pea cages today you can get $25 off any $50 order. Through today only, though the coupon comes back often. I think I made separate orders a couple of times to get my pea cages at a great price.

Wire Rope Clips-Malleable
[URL]http://www.pambinaimpex.com/malleable-wire-rope-clip-1-8/[/URL]

Gurney's Pea Fence
[URL]https://www.gurneys.com/product/pea_fence[/URL]

hl2601 March 14, 2018 09:14 PM

Thank you Rockporter!

Rockporter March 14, 2018 11:12 PM

You are very welcome!

hl2601 March 21, 2018 01:23 PM

Hi Rockporter! I am wondering how many of the wire clamps I need to order for each earth box? Thanks in advance!
Heide

Rockporter March 21, 2018 02:12 PM

[QUOTE=hl2601;690688]Hi Rockporter! I am wondering how many of the wire clamps I need to order for each earth box? Thanks in advance!
Heide[/QUOTE]

I took a look at my cages, they are all folded down and zip tied together from our hurricane prep last year. I couldn't open them up but I counted how many I saw. I counted 18 total wire clamps to hold them together. I know I ordered clamps twice in the 100 pack, but I made a lot of tall cages.

You will need a set of two pea fence to make one tall cage, one single to make a short cage. If you are making tall cages you will fold them into an oblong shape and stack one on top of the other one. You need to add clamps where the two cages meet to hold them together. You will then add clamps all the way down the side of the pea cages.

I hope this makes sense if not just ask again. Basically you are putting a clamp where each section of the cage has a wire meet another wire from one cage to the next. I wouldn't try to skip on these clamps, you don't want your plants growing between the cages and causing damage to the plants. You also want a strong cage to keep it's shape with a heavy laden plant growing out the sides and using the cage for support.

Barb_FL March 21, 2018 02:42 PM

Another EB user here. I bought a pair of Pea Fences but never could figure out how to use them stacked in an EB.

Any pictures of how they clamp to the EB and what to buy?

I have spent a fortune on cages for the EB and Root Pouches. For the EB, I've been using the 14" cage and bend the bottom posts so they all fit into the EB. If I clamp at all, I use the T-POST Clamp (like $.44 for 50) and bend it with pliers so they loop around the cage and under the EB rim. I live in a wind tunnel and have had many EB tip over, but never had the cage come out.

rnewste March 21, 2018 03:22 PM

Unfortunately, the bozos at Photobucket deleted hundreds of my photos from their Hosting site so all of my old photos are gone. Here are 2 photos that should show you the technique I used to "clamp" the cages between the EarthBox and its metal stand:

[URL="https://flic.kr/p/25o4TZi"][IMG]https://farm1.staticflickr.com/816/40943842751_0d8048757b_b.jpg[/IMG][/URL]

[URL="https://flic.kr/p/Hfk25d"][IMG]https://farm1.staticflickr.com/817/27072769168_52a0f7699d_b.jpg[/IMG][/URL]

I bent the tip 1/2 inch of each leg inwards toward the EarthBox to tuck-in between the 'Box and the stand. You could fashion something similar for an EarthBox sitting on the ground (think of using concrete blocks around the outer edges to sit the EB on).

Raybo:D

Rockporter March 21, 2018 04:27 PM

[QUOTE=Barb_FL;690702]Another EB user here. I bought a pair of Pea Fences but never could figure out how to use them stacked in an EB.

Any pictures of how they clamp to the EB and what to buy?

I have spent a fortune on cages for the EB and Root Pouches. For the EB, I've been using the 14" cage and bend the bottom posts so they all fit into the EB. If I clamp at all, I use the T-POST Clamp (like $.44 for 50) and bend it with pliers so they loop around the cage and under the EB rim. I live in a wind tunnel and have had many EB tip over, but never had the cage come out.[/QUOTE]

Barb, post #31 is my instruction on how I used zip ties the first time to attach the pea cages to my earthboxes. I also use cider blocks in front and back of the EB for winds to keep them upright. Now I use the method outlined in the post #63, it works far better than the orginal way I did it. I have no problems with the holes hubby drilled into the sides of my earthboxes. They are as if I did it today.

Edit: Take a look at post #69 because there is a part of this design I had forgotten to add to it. It's mentioned in post #69.

hl2601 March 21, 2018 09:51 PM

Thanks Raybo for the new pics and all your great posts about earth boxes.!
Rockporter I ordered 100 of the clamps as well as 2 sets of pea fences from Gurneys. Just for others who may want to do this- after you place your first order, they immediately send you a second coupon for another 25, 50 or 100 off...breaking your orders up as you suggested to take advantage of these discounts is the plan!
I will go back to post 63 to see what else my hubby will need to make these for Mothers Day. Yay!


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