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SQWIBB February 23, 2018 08:46 AM

Goodloe &Clkleiper, I hear you on the "Vomit" trees.
It was suggested by a neighbor and was a nightmare
The one out front was about 40' high 35' wide the one on the side was near 60' but narrower, the problem was the branches were like 40' long and huge.
Me and a buddy cut that one out but it was between the houses 20' wide and I have an ornamental koi pond out front so we had to perfectly align the fall in a 3" wide area, huge undertaking. I have a video I'll see if I can find it.

SQWIBB February 23, 2018 09:08 AM

Found it, this is the side tree, can't find the pics of the front tree.
Most of the tree was cut back at this point.

cant get this you tube thing working, why are there even YOUTUBE tags if they don't work?


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We had to get over 40' branches to fall between here.

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clkeiper February 23, 2018 09:11 AM

I am not 100% positive, but I think they are on the invasive list and can no longer be sold here.... I can only hope for sure!

ddsack February 23, 2018 11:07 AM

I really enjoyed reading the whole thread and following the progress of your various beds! You are a careful and talented planner to be able to get it all done so nicely, including the staining. Your yard looks great! And thanks so much for being careful with the box turtles! One of my fav creatures, wish I had them here.

SQWIBB February 23, 2018 12:36 PM

[QUOTE=ddsack;685071]I really enjoyed reading the whole thread and following the progress of your various beds! You are a careful and talented planner to be able to get it all done so nicely, including the staining. Your yard looks great! And thanks so much for being careful with the box turtles! One of my fav creatures, wish I had them here.[/QUOTE]

Some are permanent residents and some are nursed back to health and let go where found. We try to get them to hibernate a year in case they were pets let go into the wild. Sometimes they need some help.
Dont know the laws on releasing but I am sure there is some one out there that would have something to say about it.


Whenever I make a change in the yard I try to make changes that don't impact the turtles, I'll be planting some comfrey and Sorrel plants this year for more places they can forage, cool down and hide.
They're actually little grubbers, whenever I fire up one of the smokers they come over and are around my feet like cats.



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Ann123 February 23, 2018 03:53 PM

Oh my, they are so cute and beautiful.

ddsack February 23, 2018 06:06 PM

You can't imagine how jealous I am of having boxies roaming freely in your yard! Back when I was a teenager before they passed all the restrictions in the pet trade (drastically needed) I was able to get a beautiful adult and a couple of hatchlings. Had them for at least five years, but one summer they escaped from their summer outdoor quarters - I think my dog ripped open a corner of screen to get at their cat food dish - and off they went into the woods. I know there are supposed to be a few in SE Minnesota, but doubt they survived this far north. That is one gorgeous fellow with the orange legs! Are you going to keep the one with the mended shell? Thank you for rehabbing these lovely little creatures.

I live on a lake, so do have painted turtles and snappers come up to lay eggs on our driveway hill. One year our dog dug up a snapper nest, but I was able to rescue about 16 eggs of about 40 and hatch them to release in the fall. Stinky little guys! :lol:

jtjmartin February 23, 2018 08:38 PM

LOVE the hugel beds! Thanks for all the pics.

I have too much dead wood and too much clay - they combine great together. Once our ground dries a bit, I'll put in another 40 feet on hugel beds.

Jeff

rhines81 February 23, 2018 09:03 PM

Great job

whoose February 25, 2018 01:34 PM

Treated Wood?
 
Please see [URL]http://www.tomatoville.com/showthread.php?t=43790&highlight=whoose[/URL] for a discussion of the issues with treated wood.

SQWIBB February 26, 2018 08:52 AM

[QUOTE=ddsack;685140]You can't imagine how jealous I am of having boxies roaming freely in your yard! Back when I was a teenager before they passed all the restrictions in the pet trade (drastically needed) I was able to get a beautiful adult and a couple of hatchlings. Had them for at least five years, but one summer they escaped from their summer outdoor quarters - I think my dog ripped open a corner of screen to get at their cat food dish - and off they went into the woods. I know there are supposed to be a few in SE Minnesota, but doubt they survived this far north. That is one gorgeous fellow with the orange legs! Are you going to keep the one with the mended shell? Thank you for rehabbing these lovely little creatures.

I live on a lake, so do have painted turtles and snappers come up to lay eggs on our driveway hill. One year our dog dug up a snapper nest, but I was able to rescue about 16 eggs of about 40 and hatch them to release in the fall. Stinky little guys! :lol:[/QUOTE]

Sadly the Red Sliders have taken over and I see less and less Painted turtles.

SQWIBB February 26, 2018 08:54 AM

[QUOTE=jtjmartin;685158]LOVE the hugel beds! Thanks for all the pics.

I have too much dead wood and too much clay - they combine great together. Once our ground dries a bit, I'll put in another 40 feet on hugel beds.


Jeff[/QUOTE]


That is awesome, make sure to put up some photos



[QUOTE=rhines81;685167]Great job[/QUOTE]


Thank you

SQWIBB February 26, 2018 09:06 AM

[QUOTE=whoose;685454]Please see [URL]http://www.tomatoville.com/showthread.php?t=43790&highlight=whoose[/URL] for a discussion of the issues with treated wood.[/QUOTE]


[FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]I was wondering when someone would jump on the use of PT,[/SIZE][/FONT]
[SIZE=3] [/SIZE][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]I urge you to do a bit more research before posting things like “Issues with Treated wood”.[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3] Maybe change it to “My opinion on the use of Pressure Treated woods”?[/SIZE][/FONT]

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[FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]If you are referring to this statement on your page,[/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3] [/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][I]There has been a lot of discussion on using treated wood on this forum[B]. [/B]
[COLOR=#000000]Pressure [/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][B]treated[/B][/COLOR][COLOR=#000000] [/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][B]wood[/B][/COLOR][COLOR=#000000] is [/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][B]treated[/B][/COLOR] with an arsenic-like compound in most cases.

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[FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3] [/SIZE][/FONT][LIST][*][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][I]How much leeches into the ground? [/I][/SIZE][/FONT] [*][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][I]How much leeches into your plants? [/I][/SIZE][/FONT] [*][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][I]How much longer does treated wood last than regular lumber? [/I][/SIZE][/FONT] [*][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][I]How long does it take for the chemical to break down in the environment? [/I][/SIZE][/FONT] [/LIST][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3] [/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]
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[FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3] [/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][I]Pressure [B]treated[/B] [B]wood[/B] is [B]treated[/B] with an arsenic-like compound in most cases, was true. Now most treated wood is a copper based treatment. [/I][/SIZE][/FONT]
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[FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3] [/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]I have done research on this until my eyes bled and from reliable sources. And I am 100% confident in my choice of using PT wood in a raised garden bed.[/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3] [/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]I am not going to debate the use of PT wood in a raised bed garden because everyone is entitled to an opinion and I respect that.[/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]I am not here to ruffle feathers and to be quite honest some folks are just tired of hearing it. Everyone is responsible to do their own homework and make a well informed decision like I have.[/SIZE][/FONT]
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[FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3] [/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]I did want to touch on one thing in that post, your use of the word, arsenic-like[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3] ??? There is no such thing it's either arsenic or its not! To me that is misinformation and using a word that don't even apply to today's PT woods, IMHO can be considered “fear mongering”, and really should be edited in that post, it's a great post and the links to other discussions about using PT was a good call.
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[FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]I really enjoyed the read, but that one word just makes me cringe.[/SIZE][/FONT]
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[FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3] [/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]I hope you don't take this the wrong way but since you posted this on my Build page I felt it had to be addressed.[/SIZE][/FONT]

SQWIBB February 26, 2018 10:05 AM

[QUOTE=ddsack;685140]You can't imagine how jealous I am of having boxies roaming freely in your yard! Back when I was a teenager before they passed all the restrictions in the pet trade (drastically needed) I was able to get a beautiful adult and a couple of hatchlings. Had them for at least five years, but one summer they escaped from their summer outdoor quarters - I think my dog ripped open a corner of screen to get at their cat food dish - and off they went into the woods. I know there are supposed to be a few in SE Minnesota, but doubt they survived this far north. That is one gorgeous fellow with the orange legs! Are you going to keep the one with the mended shell? Thank you for rehabbing these lovely little creatures.

I live on a lake, so do have painted turtles and snappers come up to lay eggs on our driveway hill. One year our dog dug up a snapper nest, but I was able to rescue about 16 eggs of about 40 and hatch them to release in the fall. Stinky little guys! :lol:[/QUOTE]

The turtles with the fixed shells are treated with anti-biotics and once they hibernate a season they will be checked out in the spring and released around where they were found. "Reds (one on step) is a permanent resident"
We were thinking about a way to tag them with a phone number and "Leave me Be" statement.

whoose February 27, 2018 11:24 AM

Just Trying
 
[I][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]Of course arsenic or arsenic-like compounds is correct. With all the health problem family and friends are having one more factor that I can control type of wood) is just something I can do.[/SIZE][/FONT][/I]
[I][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]It is your choice.[/SIZE][/FONT][/I]


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