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travis September 7, 2015 11:03 AM

Kazoo F1
 
Last summer (2014), I made a cross between one of my nearly stable creations (Cherokee Purple x Summerpink) and one of Mark McCaslin's creations (Michael Pollan x Kozula #139).

This summer I grew out 3 vines of the F1 cross, and got two vines nearly identical, with high round or sort of egg shaped tomatoes; and a third vine that had larger, more rounded fruit. The slight variations between the vines must be the result of using the F2 pollen from the MP x K-139 plant in 2014.

These were picked fully ripe:
[IMG]https://scontent.fdtw1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/11898686_990404410980014_4495275933445838711_n.jpg?oh=c2bca4700464e299a1054ea97721032e&oe=56687954[/IMG]


These were picked a bit before full ripe:

[IMG]https://scontent.fdtw1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/v/t34.0-12/11774451_976374925716296_1186929099_n.jpg?oh=619d82701472a5d3b59a4a61f3d49ec2&oe=55EFB4A2[/IMG]

If you look closely at the tomato in the center of that second photograph, you can see the intermediately dominant skin striping characteristic from the Michael Pollan x Kozula #139 parent. Future segregations and recombinations will carry the skin striping more predominantly.

Here is Mark McCaslin's MPxKozula #139 (F2) that I used last year as the pollen donor:
[IMG]https://scontent.fdtw1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/v/t34.0-12/10536469_786070191413438_1113796496_n.jpg?oh=f7e55cd7701c0efb973936407e84b7ba&oe=55F0C680[/IMG]


Here is the Cherokee Purple x Summepink line that I used in the cross:
[IMG]https://scontent.fdtw1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpt1/v/t34.0-12/10566478_787513571269100_953040428_n.jpg?oh=8cfba38ece2b578489437b3eb0b68e7c&oe=55EFB074[/IMG]

[IMG]https://scontent.fdtw1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xft1/v/t34.0-12/10537790_787511404602650_1768672329_n.jpg?oh=bfafd6e73ee7a137e913b6da5e6d081f&oe=55EFCC72[/IMG]

I got two takes, so I have plenty of F1 seeds to go back to in the future if needed. However, I have a few thousand F2 seeds at this time.

I'm shooting for cocktail to salad sized GWR and Purple/Maroon, heavily striped recombinations, egg shaped or heart shaped, whether blunt or pointed.

All three F1 vines were hugely productive, so I hope that characteristic continues as the inbred generations progress.

carolyn137 September 8, 2015 11:24 AM

[QUOTE=travis;503510]Last summer (2014), I made a cross between one of my nearly stable creations (Cherokee Purple x Summerpink) and one of Mark McCaslin's creations (Michael Pollan x Kozula #139).

This summer I grew out 3 vines of the F1 cross, and got two vines nearly identical, with high round or sort of egg shaped tomatoes; and a third vine that had larger, more rounded fruit. The slight variations between the vines must be the result of using the F2 pollen from the MP x K-139 plant in 2014.

These were picked fully ripe:
[IMG]https://scontent.fdtw1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/11898686_990404410980014_4495275933445838711_n.jpg?oh=c2bca4700464e299a1054ea97721032e&oe=56687954[/IMG]


These were picked a bit before full ripe:

[IMG]https://scontent.fdtw1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/v/t34.0-12/11774451_976374925716296_1186929099_n.jpg?oh=619d82701472a5d3b59a4a61f3d49ec2&oe=55EFB4A2[/IMG]

If you look closely at the tomato in the center of that second photograph, you can see the intermediately dominant skin striping characteristic from the Michael Pollan x Kozula #139 parent. Future segregations and recombinations will carry the skin striping more predominantly.

Here is Mark McCaslin's MPxKozula #139 (F2) that I used last year as the pollen donor:
[IMG]https://scontent.fdtw1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/v/t34.0-12/10536469_786070191413438_1113796496_n.jpg?oh=f7e55cd7701c0efb973936407e84b7ba&oe=55F0C680[/IMG]


Here is the Cherokee Purple x Summepink line that I used in the cross:
[IMG]https://scontent.fdtw1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpt1/v/t34.0-12/10566478_787513571269100_953040428_n.jpg?oh=8cfba38ece2b578489437b3eb0b68e7c&oe=55EFB074[/IMG]

[IMG]https://scontent.fdtw1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xft1/v/t34.0-12/10537790_787511404602650_1768672329_n.jpg?oh=bfafd6e73ee7a137e913b6da5e6d081f&oe=55EFCC72[/IMG]

I got two takes, so I have plenty of F1 seeds to go back to in the future if needed. However, I have a few thousand F2 seeds at this time.

I'm shooting for cocktail to salad sized GWR and Purple/Maroon, heavily striped recombinations, egg shaped or heart shaped, whether blunt or pointed.

All three F1 vines were hugely productive, so I hope that characteristic continues as the inbred generations progress.[/QUOTE]

Kozula is a very very talented tomato breeder doing her work in the Ukraine.

I remembered that in Reinhard's last list he listed and showed pictures of hers, but none were the#139 that was used,and his were K25-56, brown/antho and 62, brown/reds K 54-68 , PL and antho,K-54-70, long pointed green/gold which I liked the best, K54-71, orange/green and finally K-54-84, a cherry.

Your pictures look great so I hope you get what you want, but maybe you don't know what you want until genetic segregation has done its miracle work.:)

Carolyn

travis September 8, 2015 05:23 PM

I got the Kozula #139 via one of the now defunct, or defunct to me, Tomato(geographics) forums three or 4 years back. I assume Mark got his K139 from the same source. There used to be photos of all the K-lines at that forum, but I have not been there for quite some time.

carolyn137 September 9, 2015 11:53 AM

I have nothing to add but came to this thread b'c I couldn't view your pictures in the Magnolia thread but can here.

Very strange, say I.:?

Carolyn

MarinaRussian September 9, 2015 11:59 AM

Ukraine? Isn't Kozula from Poland???

carolyn137 September 9, 2015 12:15 PM

[QUOTE=MarinaRussian;503893]Ukraine? Isn't Kozula from Poland???[/QUOTE]

Yes, I'm pretty sure she is.

I just went back to Reinhard's site to look at some of his Kozula ones, and he has it so you can't cut and paste, but what he said was.....aus der Ukraine.

Carolyn

bower September 9, 2015 05:41 PM

That is so cool, that you can see the spot pattern in the unripe fruit. :roll: Can't wait to see the F2's, the parents look awesome as well as the F1's. :D

Runescape September 18, 2015 06:33 PM

Well, how'd they taste?

hl2601 October 1, 2020 02:32 PM

I know this is an old thread, but any updates on Kazoo?


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