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John3 June 7, 2011 11:53 AM

Ocean Solution
 
Is anybody using (or have used) this product - Ocean Solution (mineralizer)
[URL]http://www.ocean-grown.com/[/URL]
Pros and Cons
Also are there any other brands of ocean mineralizer.

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fortyonenorth June 7, 2011 01:12 PM

I'm using a product called Sea Crop - early in the season for me, so no real feedback yet. Not sure if it's the same type of product, but info is here: [url]http://www.sea-crop.com/[/url]

There's also [url]http://www.seaagri.com/[/url] Again, not sure of the similarities.

One thing to keep in mind: these products (any many others on the market) are sources of valuable micronutrients. But, unless your majors are in place first - meaning NPK plus Calcium, Magnesium, Sulfur, etc. - the micros will offer very little if any benefit.

John3 June 7, 2011 02:31 PM

Thanks fortyonenorth

Well from what I have read so far all three (Ocean Solution, Sea Crop and Sea 90) have one thing in common - [B]Dr. Murray.
[/B]Just a note - Sea 90 says they get there's from a coastal area but does not say USA or Canada- might find when I read more. And sea 90 is a solid.

jdmfish June 7, 2011 04:25 PM

Looks promising - but I noticed the application rates for the Sea Crop is 5 tablespoons per gallon. If you buy the 16oz container, for $34, you get 6.4 applications. For some folks here, they'd need a 16oz container per "watering".


Maybe I'm reading it wrong...?

John3 June 7, 2011 04:54 PM

[QUOTE=jdmfish;217807]Looks promising - but I noticed the application rates for the Sea Crop is 5 tablespoons per gallon. If you buy the 16oz container, for $34, you get 6.4 applications. For some folks here, they'd need a 16oz container per "watering".


Maybe I'm reading it wrong...?[/QUOTE]

Ocean solution
100 : 1 - about 1 ounce to a gal of water

a liter is about 34 ounces so one liter makes about 34 gals

1 liter is $30.00 plus 18.00 s&h (North America)

And for Home Gardens use as a foliar spray

jdmfish June 7, 2011 04:58 PM

[QUOTE=John3;217812]Ocean solution
100 : 1 - about 1 ounce to a gal of water

a liter is about 34 ounces so one liter makes about 34 gals

1 liter is $30.00 plus 18.00 s&h (North America)

And for Home Gardens use as a foliar spray[/QUOTE]



That seems a lot better than the application rates for Sea Crop - assuming I'm reading their application rates correctly.

amideutch June 8, 2011 12:32 AM

This is what I use from the folks that make EM (Effective Microorganisms) and a little goes along way. Ami

[URL]http://www.em-chiemgau.de/php/produkte_detail.php?id=238[/URL]

John3 June 8, 2011 10:27 AM

jdm fish the Sea Crop ratio for home gardening is the same Ocean Solution.
Sea Crop
"Foliar Spray: Sea-Crop diluted to a 1% solution can be used as a foliar spray. A minimum of 3 applications per season applied at 1 to 3 week intervals are recommended. Customers have reported that ˝% solution of Sea-Crop works well to suppress both powdery and downy mildews."

John3 June 8, 2011 01:52 PM

Ami thanks for the info

TerraGenics June 8, 2011 10:49 PM

[QUOTE=fortyonenorth;217770]One thing to keep in mind: these products (any many others on the market) are sources of valuable micronutrients. But, unless your majors are in place first - meaning NPK plus Calcium, Magnesium, Sulfur, etc. - the micros will offer very little if any benefit.[/QUOTE]
Basically agree. Sea-90 is a whole natural sea salt. Ocean Solution is a seawater concentrate and so is Sea-Crop. Each are made using very different processes.

[QUOTE]Sea 90 says they get there's from a coastal area but does not say USA or Canada[/QUOTE]From the Salton Sea basically from what I understand. A product like this is mostly sodium chloride.

[QUOTE]Looks promising - but I noticed the application rates for the Sea Crop is 5 tablespoons per gallon. If you buy the 16oz container, for $34, you get 6.4 applications. For some folks here, they'd need a 16oz container per "watering". [/QUOTE]You can get Sea-Crop for about $30 per gallon from certain sources in 5 gallon sizes. $34 per 16 oz is a bit crazy. At the most you should be paying about $60 per gallon delivered.

[QUOTE] That seems a lot better than the application rates for Sea Crop - assuming I'm reading their application rates correctly. [/QUOTE]Yeah but what results do you get at the recommended concentrations for Ocean Solution?

[QUOTE]Foliar Spray: Sea-Crop diluted to a 1% solution can be used as a foliar spray. A minimum of 3 applications per season applied at 1 to 3 week intervals are recommended.[/QUOTE]Studies have shown that 1 1% soil drench at transplant and 2 1% foliar applications provide excellent results.

John3 June 9, 2011 08:25 AM

[QUOTE=TerraGenics;217971]You can get Sea-Crop for about $30 per gallon from certain sources in 5 gallon sizes. $34 per 16 oz is a bit crazy. At the most you should be paying about $60 per gallon delivered.[/QUOTE]

Do you have links(s) for these sources? I see at your site it's $80.00 per 2 1/2 gal. I think (not sure) but for most home gardening isn't that a lot?

I did read that you offer a [COLOR=DarkSlateGray]trial [/COLOR]at 50% discount - but not sure how it works for a home gardener (it looks to be for farmers with acres)

John3 June 9, 2011 01:49 PM

TerraGenics, Have you thought about offering Tomatovillians Sea-Crop in a quart size testing in home gardens? Just wondering.


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