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VirginiaClay February 17, 2023 12:06 PM

Garrote Bicolor Aracenes - color?
 
Okay, I know this sounds like a trick question, but what color are Garrote Bicolor Aracenes tomatoes? It sounds like they should be bicolor, but the few photos I've found seem to show a plain red or pink tomato. I don't see anything that looks like bicolor, even in photos of the cut fruit.

Any other feedback about this tomato also would be appreciated. I have seeds and am considering growing it this year, but there's a lot of competition in my seed box.

Whwoz February 17, 2023 04:21 PM

Red/Pink it is, cannot recall any bicolour but our Spanish members would know it better than I. Large beefsteak, extremely tasty, well worth growing. A regular here since I started growing it.

Tormato February 17, 2023 10:37 PM

Red/Pink?

I've never heard of that, in a bicolor. To me, red means red interior with yellow skin, and pink means red interior with clear skin.

Of the bicolors that I've seen, excluding the ones that get into the greens, browns, etc..., the interior is a mix of red and yellow, sometimes about an equal mix, other times almost none of the secondary color. A yellow skinned bicolor is usually called red and yellow, while a clear skinned bicolor may be called pink and yellow.


I usually only trial 2 or 3 bicolors a year. With really good weather, I wish to compare them to each other. But, in poor weather such as frequent heavy rains, bicolors, in my garden, are about as bad as a tomato can be, mushy and tasteless.

VirginiaClay February 18, 2023 12:45 AM

[QUOTE=Tormato;769951]Red/Pink?

I've never heard of that, in a bicolor. To me, red means red interior with yellow skin, and pink means red interior with clear skin.

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I think Whwoz was just saying that Garrote Bicolor Aracenes is a single-color tomato (red or pink, unspecified), not a bicolor.

Whwoz February 21, 2023 04:54 AM

From what I recall, and I have it growing currently it is a single color fruit, have not noticed any yellow inside. Received my seed direct from Nicolas Garcia here. have just checked notes from previous years, definitely red, single color. Very tasy wellworth the effort of growing, producing large beefsteaks pushing close to 2 pounds (859 grams) in the hands of someone here whom I passed a plant onto who has a bit more time (and a few less plants) to tend them than I have had. From memory it is 4 years straight that I have grown it.

NicolasGarcia February 21, 2023 10:24 AM

Hello everyone, I would like to clarify the issue of the Aracena bicolor garrote.
Perhaps its name is not due to the fact that it has two colors, perhaps its meaning is that it is pink and red.
Many years ago a man said that he had a Spanish relic that came from his ancestors, the truth is that there are no more references and in the Spanish tomato forum he decided that among all of us we should give it a name and decide to give it that name, Aracenes is because it comes from Aracena (which is a Spanish municipality and town in the province of Huelva. It is located in the mountainous area to which it gives its name, Sierra de Aracena, which is part of Sierra Morena), the garrote and bicolor were more Give it a nice name... it's a tomato that I grow every year, it's the authentic Spanish heirloom tomato characteristic of a lifetime.

NicolasGarcia February 21, 2023 10:29 AM

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Some photos of the original photos from quite a few years ago

NicolasGarcia February 21, 2023 10:40 AM

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Some photos of mine

VirginiaClay February 21, 2023 12:14 PM

Whwoz & NicolasGarcia, thank you both for the additional information and the pictures! That helps a lot. Looks like an excellent tomato; I'm going to try to find a spot for it this year.

I'm curious about the "Garrote" part of the name. The internet says it translates as club, stick or bludgeon, and as the stick used in executing someone by strangulation. (Word to the wise: don't look at the execution picture in the Wikipedia Garrote article.) Also parking brake or hand brake in cars. None of those things seems like inspiration for a tomato name. Is there another meaning?

NicolasGarcia February 21, 2023 01:13 PM

Garrote
 
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It can refer to two definitions or more.Palo grueso y fuerte que se usa principalmente como bastón o para golpear con él

NicolasGarcia February 21, 2023 01:16 PM

Garrote's inspiration may be because it is a very large and robust plant

VirginiaClay February 21, 2023 01:25 PM

[QUOTE=NicolasGarcia;770000]Garrote's inspiration may be because it is a very large and robust plant[/QUOTE]
Ah, that makes sense! Thanks. And I like the stick-fighting picture.

NicolasGarcia February 21, 2023 01:30 PM

The last two candidates were the names "Ancestral de Aracena" and "Garrote bicolor aracenes".

25/8/17

Tormato February 27, 2023 11:32 AM

Perhaps the pink and red refers to the exterior color being red, and the interior a lighter shade, being more pink?

I'm glad this is cleared up, as I have to inform several people it is not a "marbled" two-color interior variety.

NicolasGarcia February 27, 2023 01:52 PM

[QUOTE=Tormato;770074]Perhaps the pink and red refers to the exterior color being red, and the interior a lighter shade, being more pink?

I'm glad this is cleared up, as I have to inform several people it is not a "marbled" two-color interior variety.[/QUOTE]

Exactly


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