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cdntomato January 12, 2008 10:21 AM

Breeding for cherries
 
I am looking at available cherry colorations in OPs for several friends who run CSAs and/or farmgate stands as well as selling at farmers markets and to local restaurants. The range of colours is still fairly limited; yes, there's a black and a green and an orange but only one variety of note in each. Really lacking is a good tasting pink. I've not been fond of Pearly Pink Cherry except with regard to its looks and Rose Quartz has been hit and miss as has Dr Carolyn Pink.

So...a breeding project for cherries is looming.

Please forward suggestions for crosses to attempt.

I've already and accidently stumbled onto a tasty orange cross and will try to stablize it now. Tentative names: Andrea's Agony or Andrea's Anguish (it was her first attempt at saving seeds...Provenzano, she thought. Planted her first year Prov. crop no where near any cherries or oranges so cannot figure this crossing out. Ah well)

Eva Purple Ball x?
June Pink x?
Cherokee Purple x?
Black from Tula x?
Green Giant x?
Cherokee Green x?

Thanks,
Jennifer

Raymondo January 12, 2008 04:31 PM

Just thinking out loud:

Galina's Yellow
x Earl of Edgecombe (tasty orange cherry)
x Green Zebra (a striped cherry)

PNW_D January 13, 2008 10:32 AM

Galina
X Little Lucky

PL early prolific bicolour cherry??
with outstanding taste of course :)

cdntomato January 13, 2008 11:29 AM

Excellent suggestions that will be put into action.
And they've triggered ideas for additional combos.

Ta muchly!!
Jennifer with big grin

patty_b January 13, 2008 12:01 PM

Here's one that I have been wanting to try and just not quite sure how to make the crossing work ......
Galinas x Sweet Thing Grape......to get a good tasting solid yellow grape. Galinas for the PL to tell if the cross took and Yellow color
...Sweet Thing(a red grape) for the taste and grape shape.
Or would it more likely become a red round cherry though??
Here's what I grew last time looking for a good yellow grape.
Ildi
Golden Grape
Golden Sweet F1
Orange Santa F1... I actually kind of like this one! (different tasting)
Yellow Submarine
Mini Orange

Patty

Raymondo January 13, 2008 03:29 PM

Patty, Have a look at [url]http://www.kdcomm.net/~tomato/Tomato/xingtom.html[/url]
Use Galina's as the female for the reason you described. You might get what you're looking for in the second, or perhaps third generation. After that, it's a matter stabilisation. Have a go.

Tom Wagner January 15, 2008 01:58 AM

A local Farmers' Market grower who has tried several hundred of my varieties two years ago is interested again to try some o my creations. His interest? Cherry tomatoes of all colors with some Late Blight resistance and tolerance to some other pathogens.

I decided to focus on F-2 seed that would segregate for nearly all colors, green, white, red, pink, yellow, orange, striped, black........the whole spectrum.

The F-2 seedling plants will segregate for the Late Blight resistance 3:1. One of four susceptable, 2 of 4 resistant but will segregate further next year, and 1 of 4 having the homozygous resistance.

This grower wants me to start the organic seed in organic growing media right away, in order to transplant tomatoes to the greenhouse soil in March. His stipulation is that the fruits are small round cherries on indeterminate vines and early. No problem.

My hope is to get digital photos of most of the prototypes and show a few here or on my proposed website.

This fella likes to pick mixed colors and sell them as mixed colors. He does that with seed potatoes I provide him for the last two seasons.

Tom Wagner

cdntomato January 15, 2008 08:28 AM

[I]This fella likes to pick mixed colors and sell them as mixed colors. He does that with seed potatoes I provide him for the last two seasons.[/I]

Bingo. Same deal here. Thanks, Tom. And you know how interested I am in your breeding work in both maters and potaters, and giving credit to you for it as well. Please, please keep me/us posted on your results and their future availability.

Cheers,
Jennifer

kktwahoo January 21, 2008 04:25 PM

Tom,

Can I try some seed, but I cannot start it inside until end of March, we real winter, remember?

Thanks!

Raymondo February 1, 2008 03:56 AM

Well, the temptation was too great. I had Galina's Yellow growing in the tomato patch this year, well, I do every year, anyway, there she was, just crying out to be mated with some of the tomatoes around her.
Here are the results of the four crosses I attempted:

Galina's Yellow x Burracker's Favorite (at least I hope it's Burracker's Favorite)
[IMG]http://www.feldoncentral.com/garden/photos/d/8536-2/GYxBF.jpg[/IMG]

Galina's Yellow x Black Krim - the newest and hence smallest
[IMG]http://www.feldoncentral.com/garden/photos/d/8538-2/GYxBK.jpg[/IMG]

Galina's Yellow x Green Zebra
[IMG]http://www.feldoncentral.com/garden/photos/d/8542-3/GYxGZ.jpg[/IMG]

Galina's Yellow x Grub's Mystery Green
[IMG]http://www.feldoncentral.com/garden/photos/d/8540-2/GYxGMG.jpg[/IMG]

Galina's Yellow is such an easy tomato to work with as the flowers are very easy to emasculate.

Happy times ahead Jennifer!

Patrina_Pepperina February 1, 2008 06:45 AM

Cool, thanks for posting the pics Ray! They are lookin' all robust and happy wee babes :D

The F1s should all be interesting too - any predictions?

cdntomato February 3, 2008 08:04 PM

Thanks heaps, papa Ray. Looking very good. Now we need to figure out naming protocols...

Jennifer

jackdaniel March 8, 2010 06:02 PM

[quote=cdntomato;87866]Thanks heaps, papa Ray. Looking very good. Now we need to figure out naming protocols...

Jennifer[/quote]

I remember reading a post in the Dwarf project pages about adding your name to the end of the tag, e.g., "Grumpy" variety plus "F2" generation plus "JackDaniel" your name= Grumpy F2 JackDaniel. Not very pretty...


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