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**carolyn137** · May 14, 2009

I spent some time plowing through the long listings for this variety in back SSE YEarbooks last night.

Almost everyone in the first couple of years got their seeds from Nichols Nursery in OR ( origin stated as Irkutsk, Siberia) who were the first to introduce it in the US. And then those seeds were spread around within the US as well as to European SSE members.

Going through the listings most said 2 to 4 oz fruits, with some stating fruits in the 6-8 oz range and the few who noted fruit shape said round not plum shaped, and only Ake from Sweden and one other person said deteminate as I recall.

So yes, I think two versions are in circulation Alex.

May 14, 2009	#11
carolyn137 Moderator Emeritus Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Upstate NY, zone 4b/5a Posts: 21,169	I spent some time plowing through the long listings for this variety in back SSE YEarbooks last night. Almost everyone in the first couple of years got their seeds from Nichols Nursery in OR ( origin stated as Irkutsk, Siberia) who were the first to introduce it in the US. And then those seeds were spread around within the US as well as to European SSE members. Going through the listings most said 2 to 4 oz fruits, with some stating fruits in the 6-8 oz range and the few who noted fruit shape said round not plum shaped, and only Ake from Sweden and one other person said deteminate as I recall. So yes, I think two versions are in circulation Alex. __________________ Carolyn