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Old June 19, 2017   #12
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Originally Posted by Gardeneer View Post
The one in the link is NOT Cuore De Bue (Coeur de Boeuf .)
It looks more like Franchi to me , fluted pear shape
The Franchi Red Pear is a cuore di bue type.

The Italians and the French call 2 types of tomato cuor(e) di bue/coeur de boeuf. One is this fluted piriform type. The other is the "classico" type, which is what we think of when we think "oxheart". Calling the piriform one "cuor di bue" is more common in Italy.

There are varieties that are called simply "cuor(e) di bue" or "coeur de boeuf", just like there are varieties that we encounter which are simply called "oxheart". But, just as "oxheart" is also a generic name for a type of tomato and is also a part of the official variety names of many oxheart varieties, "cuor(e) di bue" works the same way--except that, in the English speaking world "oxheart" means actual heart shapes, whereas in many European countries, it means either the heart shape or the large piriform.

Italian wikipedia page for cuor(e) di bue describes both types.

Piriform called "coeur de boeuf" on Tania's tomatobase.

French wikipedia page about coeur de boeuf also describes both types.

Even the German speaking world calls the piriform "Ochsenherz" ("oxheart").

I can only read about 20 words of Russian anymore, but it does seem to me that the Russians agree with Americans on the fact that "oxhearts" are only the truly heart shaped varieties (broad shoulders, narrow bottom).

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I planted couple of them They turned out disease magnet in my garden . So did Franchi.
That's too bad! I'm surprised. Franchi Red Pear was the last of my plants to get any kind of fungal disease in my garden. Super productive for me and delicious.
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