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oakley · September 15, 2017

If I had a similar question I would consult.....Fred Hempel.
And a dozen others come to mind. FrogsLeap, ?, not sure what
they have going this season.

Guessing that's why they asked Fred.

Where I grew up, EasternShore, un-staked and field grown is
most common. As well as NewEngland. New Jersey, HudsonValley
NY, etc. I do see low, far apart staking now, with one string,
like a low Florida weave?, to help
keep the isles clear and maybe allows closer spacing.

I always get more questions about why I trellis over not.
Trial more varieties closer together is one reason of many...
(bamboo teepee style, tied together across the top for high winds)
Can't stake because of the rocks. The 4x4 fence posts took a
back hoe to excavate deep enough. A few did heave after all.

I put in some field rows 5-6 yrs ago. 3 30ft runs. Not a business
farm here, just family. Plan was to trial for our garden in
Newfoundland. Ended up with a long run of rhubarb, tomatillos
and sunflowers. Then 2015 i did the middle run of tomatoes
in place of the tomatillos after some research.

Taxi, Clair'sTom, (aka I've forgotten), and Wippersnapper. (sp)
The spreading out was massive, though not so much Taxi.
Like pickin' strawberries, ugh.

Sat covered 2016 and this season. Knowing what I know now
having grown MagliaRosa and some Brad Gates varieties, and now
my first year in the dwarf project, 2018 can't come soon enough.

I have 38 deck fabric pots, one and two gallon. Started with 52
but most of those composted were micro winter grown.
*next year 2 gal minimum, 5 gal nursery for most.

Two released Dwarfs, TennSuited and KangarooPawBrown, are
excellent. The rest are project F2 and 3 and hunts.
4 of the 16 project dwarfs I've saved seeds. One still not quite
ripe is larger than golfball and full of stripes. Another has fruit in
a tight cluster of 5-6, pale white/yellow, large egg shaped.

Compact plants, good foliage cover, and fits the 'exotic' category.

I know now what you have experienced in the past. Watching
what happens after crossing and anticipating the surprises. I've only had one spitter and a few so-so bland. Like Christmas morn
every day just outside my kitchen door where for years
I just had herbs on the deck.

September 15, 2017	#22
oakley Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: NewYork 5a Posts: 2,303	If I had a similar question I would consult.....Fred Hempel. And a dozen others come to mind. FrogsLeap, ?, not sure what they have going this season. Guessing that's why they asked Fred. Where I grew up, EasternShore, un-staked and field grown is most common. As well as NewEngland. New Jersey, HudsonValley NY, etc. I do see low, far apart staking now, with one string, like a low Florida weave?, to help keep the isles clear and maybe allows closer spacing. I always get more questions about why I trellis over not. Trial more varieties closer together is one reason of many... (bamboo teepee style, tied together across the top for high winds) Can't stake because of the rocks. The 4x4 fence posts took a back hoe to excavate deep enough. A few did heave after all. I put in some field rows 5-6 yrs ago. 3 30ft runs. Not a business farm here, just family. Plan was to trial for our garden in Newfoundland. Ended up with a long run of rhubarb, tomatillos and sunflowers. Then 2015 i did the middle run of tomatoes in place of the tomatillos after some research. Taxi, Clair'sTom, (aka I've forgotten), and Wippersnapper. (sp) The spreading out was massive, though not so much Taxi. Like pickin' strawberries, ugh. Sat covered 2016 and this season. Knowing what I know now having grown MagliaRosa and some Brad Gates varieties, and now my first year in the dwarf project, 2018 can't come soon enough. I have 38 deck fabric pots, one and two gallon. Started with 52 but most of those composted were micro winter grown. *next year 2 gal minimum, 5 gal nursery for most. Two released Dwarfs, TennSuited and KangarooPawBrown, are excellent. The rest are project F2 and 3 and hunts. 4 of the 16 project dwarfs I've saved seeds. One still not quite ripe is larger than golfball and full of stripes. Another has fruit in a tight cluster of 5-6, pale white/yellow, large egg shaped. Compact plants, good foliage cover, and fits the 'exotic' category. I know now what you have experienced in the past. Watching what happens after crossing and anticipating the surprises. I've only had one spitter and a few so-so bland. Like Christmas morn every day just outside my kitchen door where for years I just had herbs on the deck.