i guess i ended up closer to the telephone pole than i thought.
when my wife and son drove by SLOWLY later in the day, they said i was less than
3 ft away from the pole.
the friend that pulled the car out, couldn't do it with his 2 ton truck with winch.
my car was perpendicular to the road, back end closest to the road. he figured pulling
out a subaru outback would be no problem, but his truck kept sliding on the ice.
he had to go back and get a bigger truck.
keith
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