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Old August 20, 2013   #2
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Originally Posted by Tom Wagner View Post
PI 131880
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Rey Humberto.
An Italian variety imported from Italy but collected 1939 in Argentina.

I used this variety in breeding lines back maybe fifty years ago from the tomato
collections. I was using the San Marzano variety quite a bit in crosses and I
wanted similar kinds to use. I don't even know if any of my lines using it are even
viable anymore.

Fast forward to today. I used what I think is the same variety KING UMBERTO
in a cross to my Flaming Burst. Flaming Burst is a Flamme x Verde Claro OP that
has tear shaped gold cherry tomato fruits. The hybrid between FB and KU might
be kinda interesting. Using varieties such as Rey Humberto or King Umberto
which probably date back to the late 1800's, may be of interest to some gardeners.

My pollen plant of King Umberto has some crosses on it but it is too soon to give
my readers here any information about it. Maybe someone could chime in.

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http://t.tatianastomatobase.com:88/wiki/Roi_Humbert

Tom, this is a variety that Bill Minkey got from a huge trade with Norbert in France in 1992. Others who participated were Joe Bratka, Craig L and myself.

I grew it back then and didn't like it at all. The skin was very tough and taste was not memorable at all.

In that huge trade we were able to get many new varieties and all of them were SSE listed so lots of folks had access to them,

Jaune Flammee was one of them. I don't know if that's the same as the Flammee that you mentioned above, b/c there is a mixup with the word Flammee being used in different contexts.

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