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Old August 16, 2018   #37
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Default what is rude?

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Originally Posted by imp View Post
You can tell others to post their opinions else where, I guess , but it's a bit odd you point out that this is for "alternatives to chemical ferts and pesticides", but this particular discussion is about round up.



Is that a teeny bit rude to tell another member their opinion can't be here just as yours is or any one else's as long as discussion is polite?


Are only certain members allowed to post in this sub forum and not others ?


I myself use a variety of methods to control problems, some organic, some not, so do you wish to exclude me from this forum?

Hi Imp,
We obviously don't share the same perspective on what is or isn't rude. I will try to explain my point of view.


(1) I find it rude, personally, for my comments to be used as a basis for these ( insulting!) insinuations. Do I think you are rude in making these remarks and questions? Yes I do.



There is nothing in my post to suggest that you or any other member should be excluded from this sub forum. My post said that specific comments, dissing the organic industry and methods, and advocating chemical ag, do not belong in this sub forum.


(2) The comments which I objected to, were comments which I consider to be rude in the context of this sub forum and the organic growers who contribute to the sub forum.


(3) When people repeat their opinions over and over without listening to others, it is rude, in my opinion.

In a civil and constructive discussion, contributors not only comment but also read what others have said, links they have posted, and so on, so that in the process of discussion we all become better informed. No it is not at all offensive if the occasional comment is made without being well aware of the matter being discussed. But it is offensive when the same uninformed comment is made repeatedly, in spite of the fact that evidence to the contrary is the subject being discussed by others. The example I am talking about, is your two posts in this thread in which you place the blame on the man who got cancer, for not following instructions. The evidence being discussed by others is about the company's failure to recommend any suitable precautions. If you still believe the man is to blame for his cancer, fine, say so, but once is enough to express your dissent. "Agree to disagree" requires that you keep it to once, IMO.



(4) It is also rude to hijack a thread in a way that distracts from the subject.

So please don't reply to me about "what is rude" in this thread. I've given you my frank opinions and I hope you can take it constructively as it is intended. If you want to discuss what is rude any further, start a thread about it. If you want to know more about what could be considered rude in an organic sub forum, post it for discussion in this one, or if you want to know in a more general sense, I suggest 2 cents forum.


As for discussion of Roundup or other chemicals in an organic forum, you must understand that people who grow organically have concerns about chems in the environment and food chain, which affects all of us, and should be free to express and discuss that perspective in our own subforum without any contentious argument about it.
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