Carolyn, thanks for your response. I figured you would have a crack at it.
I am not familiar with the Sandhill list although you do mention "Not a
de colgar type listed."
That was actually my point, considering the thread this question is in.
Perhaps I wasn't really very clear but my real question is about what some
of these "long keepers" may have in common with the Piennolo varieties,
if anything. I'm assuming, and it seems supported by what I've seen, that
these must have some long keeping qualities in order to be subjected to
such a process. Do these qualities arise in the same fashion or another way?
I do not know about any "gassable" ones but have assumed that they
exist. I hope I never see any.
My other point concerned the "MANY hybrids bred so ripening is delayed" and
my hypothesis that this is NOT the same thing, which you appear to confirm.
Also, I really don't accept that in these ripening is merely delayed. Yes, I can
see how that breeding technique would presuppose a delay rather than the
finality I have suggested. However, when I grew an F1 (Rebelion) from our
favorite breeder that begins with a "V", and, although eye-poppingly red,
they were so bad that I had to get a 5 gallon bucket to haul them out into
the woods and dump them, and when I had to do that again almost a month
later and found the original lot still there and still in the same condition,
it looks pretty definitive to me. I allow you the prerogative to say "delayed"
but I will stick to "cannot".
However, that was not my original drift. WOuld you like to elaborate? Or
maybe another member can have a tilt at it.