Originally Posted by carolyn137

I grew both at the old family farm which is s about a half hour north of the Albany county line a zone 5 for me, and inground,in what some would call soil but I call it dirt.

And yes, Joe's long was very productive, actually I had put out two plants of each.

I don't think so many places would be offering one or the other or both if they weren't great varieties.

Carolyn