I did buy some of those seeds but did not plant them.I'll save them for next year.Thanks you Carolyn137.I asked my daughter if she wanted to plant both seeds at her mother-in-laws garden where they have more room but she did not want to.She has never planted a garden.Her in laws planted cucumbers but I don't know what type.I gave her different heirloom tomatoes I grew from seed that her mother-in-law planted.So maybe next year I'll ask again about planting there.