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May 25, 2017 | #1 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: San Diego
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2017 screen house tomatoes
Thought id share some picture of the last few month of this years tomato hoop. On the left are the artisan tomato varieties from artisan seeds out of northern california, grafted to maxifort rootstock, on the right Sungolds grafted to maxifort. Fertigation is a tensiometer based gravity drip emitter product that feeds a 1.6 EC/5.8pH solution based on soil moisture, but with zero runoff through the life of the plants. Nursery 5 containers and a 70/30 peat/perlite medium. Thanks for having me
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May 25, 2017 | #2 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Den of Drunken Fools
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Looks nice and a lot of work involved.
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May 25, 2017 | #3 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Northern Minnesota - zone 3
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Glad to have you here! That's a nice set up you have designed. Let us know how your harvest goes later on.
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May 25, 2017 | #4 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Wichita Falls, Texas
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wow, nice. Looking forward to hearing about your progress!
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May 25, 2017 | #5 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Illinois, zone 6
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Yes, very nice.
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May 25, 2017 | #6 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: San Marcos, CA
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Greetings Backyardbrix,
I moved to San Marcos in February after many years in Valley Center. I used to grow 50-100 tomato plants per year, but now have room for only 10 or so. It is a lot cooler here, only 7 miles from the Pacific. Have you had any problem with grey mold? I have been afraid to plant any black varieties because they are susceptible to that disease. Any other advice you have regarding growing tomatoes at the coast would be welcome. |
May 25, 2017 | #7 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: San Diego
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Thanks for all the kind words. This is the third year ive grown grafted tomatoes in this format. I did a side by side season with my go-to heirlooms grafted and ungrafted and recorded yields and such. The results were convincing for a few plants but with some- like the striped german hierloom- the plant becomes too vegetative and the yields are not helped much.
I also re use all my media unless i have a serious problem or insect infestation the run before, so having resistant rootstock helps ensure i'm not asking for disease problems. After the second season, the peat mix is incorporated into outdoor beds to grow other veggies. Im also just kind of a nerd and like grafting things just to graft them. For what its worth, I will say in a true hydroponic system which i also have running usually (recirculating, perlite only medium) the grafted vs ungrafted results are slimmer Always experimenting |
May 25, 2017 | #8 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: San Diego
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I am about 2 blocks from the ocean in Point Loma, so technically i have water on three sides of me on the end of this peninsula. I grow black krims through the end of december with little mold or mildew problems. My secret? well its not a secret... Bacillus Amyloliquifaciens. Particular strains of this bacteria when applied foliarly or to the root zone trigger the plants defense systems through SA resistance, and via microbial antagonism. Basically its a game changer for any crops suseptible to foliar disease in high humidity conditions. Im not sure what the rules here are for linking to outside sources but there is a phenominal article published in "Frontiers in Microbiology" i can send you on the subject if youre interested.
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May 25, 2017 | #9 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Williamsburg VA Zone 7b
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Love to see the article!
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May 25, 2017 | #10 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: San Diego
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Here ya go
http://journal.frontiersin.org/artic...015.00883/full There are many other articles like this out there, some more recent. This is probably the most thorough article that doesnt require a subscription to access though. I used to use Stylet oil and before that neem products to fight PM and other foliar issues in my tomatoes. Since finding this bacteria and utilizing more compost teas, I didnt need to spray any oils last year at all. And I live in PM country |
May 25, 2017 | #11 | |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: San Marcos, CA
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I googled "Bacillus Amyloliquifaciens" and many articles and some ads for products containing Bacillus Amyloliquifaciens. It is quite inexpensive. I think a lot of folks here would welcome anything that helps avoid gray mold. TV allows you to link to articles. I found many articles on the bacillus in Frontiers of Microbiology. Can you provide a link or the title of the article you refer to? Last edited by VC Scott; May 25, 2017 at 07:25 PM. |
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May 25, 2017 | #12 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: San Diego
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It is truly a life saver. I even went out and bought a number of roses to plant on the side of my yard after being convinced if it's efficacy. Bacteria for the win
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May 25, 2017 | #13 | |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: San Marcos, CA
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I searched "Amyloliquifaciens" in both the General Forum and the Common Garden Disease and Pest forum and didn't get any hits. That is rather surprising considering the depth of coverage here. Last edited by VC Scott; May 25, 2017 at 07:57 PM. |
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May 25, 2017 | #14 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Greenville, South Carolina
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Looks promising and bacterial controls are the future IMHO. That said I will add that I have had great success eliminating mold and mildew with potassium bicarbonate which is very cheap and for me solved my PM and BM issues in 2 treatments.
Edit: I see Monterey has it for 16 bucks, for that price I'm down for trying it. http://www.montereylawngarden.com/do...Label_(01).pdf Last edited by BigVanVader; May 25, 2017 at 11:42 PM. |
May 26, 2017 | #15 | |
Tomatovillian™
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Just be aware that there are many strains of the BA bacterium out there and some may not be as effective as others. Some brands consider their strain of BA proprietary and wont release the name or other info even after i filled up their voicemailbox with questions |
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