Can ID? Deeply ribbed pink or red from Paris

[ScottinAtlanta]

This was just bought in Paris - can anyone recognize the ribbed tomato?

[NarnianGarden]

Wow! Can't help with id'ing, but I could happily help you eat them...

[ScottinAtlanta]

I am not in Paris - pic was sent by a friend who wanted an ID. I have done the ones I know....

[KarenO]

Looks like Zapotec pleated

although there is no way to be certain

KarenO

[carolyn137]

So, being me, I Googled the package label and came up with several links.

I like this one the best maybe b'c it's in English and my French is not all that great?

http://www.princedebretagne-pro.com/...1/tomates.html

You can click on the product head icon on the right, hopefully the head is attached to a body, send a picture of what you have and ask what the ribbed one is as to variety name. Or at the bottom of the page is also a contact link

Here's a Google search:

https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q...Antan+tomatoes

The ribbed one?

https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q...mato+varieties

I didn't check any of the links in the above and the only two that come to mind right now are Pink Accordian and Zapotec Pleated and the latter one also goes by some other names.

Hope that helps,

Carolyn

[ScottinAtlanta]

I sent the photo in, and asked for the name as you suggested. Good idea.

[NarnianGarden]

You can find names of different varieties via the google link provided by Carolyn, like this one


http://www.primeursdesaintmalo.com/w...Antan%20GB.pdf

The ribbed one could be Coeur de Boeuf.

Looks very good - I am glad the French are marketing tasty tomatoes..!

[MrBig46]

I also think it would be a tomato from the group Coeuer de Boeuf- Cuor di Bue- Oxheart. On the picture is my yet green Oxheart last year.
Vladimír

[carolyn137]

Originally Posted by NarnianGarden

You can find names of different varieties via the google link provided by Carolyn, like this one


http://www.primeursdesaintmalo.com/w...Antan%20GB.pdf

The ribbed one could be Coeur de Boeuf.

Looks very good - I am glad the French are marketing tasty tomatoes..!

Thanks for your link and I agree it's probably Coeur de Boeuf from doing some Googling and looking at pictures. I first tried Tania's site but shedidn't list it.

https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q...f+tomato+seeds

It's not the Antan version which is a heart.

I'm not so sure about your comment that the French are marketing tasty tomatoes, but maybe it's the marketing part that is important since I knewof MANY frenchmen who were growing wonderfully tasty tomatoes.

Back in 1992 4 of us here in the US were contacted by Norbert in France wanting to trade seeds with us. We interacted as a group so we wouldn't ask for duplicate varieties, and we got back from him around 100 varieties, most of them superb, some of them just plain interesting such as one I was sent, Dourne d Hivre, which was a rin mutant and I had to take a hammer to it to open the fruits to get at the seeds.

We SSE listed them all and that'show somany varieties not known in the US before became available and many of them still popular today.

Norbert appeared here at Tville a few years ago and I was shocked since I had tried to reach him with no response. He said he had moved and that was the problem. But it didn't work out well for him since his English was not good, he posted in French, and there were a few folks here who would transate from french to English, but I think he just got frustrated and left.

Carolyn

[NarnianGarden]

What I meant was, I am glad the French are promoting and selling heirloom/ heirloom type tomatoes - (both seeds and produce) I know they are passionate about fresh tasty vegetables and food in general, and rely heavily on local markets and growers, more so than us here in the North. Finding anything slightly interesting produced in this country is a challenge.
(Of course their climate is different from ours & allows more diversity, but it also comes down to different culture...)

But looking at that tomato catalogue link, I wonder what do 'Golden Tomato' and 'Pink Tomato' mean... Tania has neither listed at her site, so I wonder if those are simply translations of some French varieties (commercial or heirloom).

[maf]

Maybe not the exact same color, but shape is very similar for these:

Liguria @ tatianastomatobase

Cuneo Giant Pear

Franchi Giant Pear

[AlittleSalt]

Originally Posted by KarenO

Looks like Zapotec pleated

although there is no way to be certain

KarenO

While I agree that it looks like Zapotec - What I've read is Zapotec is named after Zapotec Indians in Mexico.

Edit: I didn't notice the Green Zebras at first, so yeah, it could be Zapotec

[RobinB]

It kind of reminds me of Belmonte. Here's a pic:

[carolyn137]

Originally Posted by RobinB

It kind of reminds me of Belmonte. Here's a pic:

Robin, it turns out there is no one Belmonte:

https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&...82.Um_qqW4SUsw

Some are red, some are pink, some are ribbed and some are not, as noted in the above Google Link.

http://www.italyspecials.com/en/sear...lmonte-tomato/

Above is more info about versions of belmonte and note the one called Belmonte Calabro. And also note the Cuore Di Bue references/

A lady from Italy named Roberta, from the US originally, asked if I wanted to trade seeds, I said yes, and here's what she sent me.

Belmonte Calabro
Cuore Di Bue Rose
Cuore Di Bue Albenga
Chili
Licata Rose
Belmonte Costoluto ( the word costoluto means ribbed)

I had asked someone to volunteer to grow out Roberta's seeds b/c my seed producers could do no more and a great person from here at Tville offered and she sent me actual fruits as well as pictures/

I dont have time to check now but I think most of those will be in my now late 2015 seed offer.

The Belmonte that I grew quite a few years ago was a large pink withno ribbing at all.

Carolyn

[RobinB]

Interesting! The seeds I got and grew in 2013 were from Wintersown and the packet just said "Belmonte." It was tasty when eaten fresh, but even better when made into sauce. Mine were pink (clear skin.) I didn't grow it again because it was very late for me, nearly 90 days that year which fortunately had a delayed first frost into early October.