Philippines Tomato?

[Stepheninky]

Saw in a post on seed savers forum that there is a Tomato in the Philippines that is great for hot humid weather and is also a black variety. They called it a Nagaraclang but a Google search only finds that same reference from SSE forums about it. Since I know we have some members from that area was hoping they might know the actual name of the tomato as it sounds like it would do well here in the south.

This is how the described it:
It's a "black" tomato that comes from the Phillipines and supposedly was selected to deal with the climate there (where any tomato has to deal with the monsoon season) it's main adapataion is that the flowers apperently are good at shedding water.

Thanks for any help

[pinakbet]

First of all, I'm not an expert in tomatoes.

Never heard of any native black tomatoes here. But the local tomato here are quite adapted to our climate.

here is our "native" tomato, they just call it kamatis-tagalog or simply "native". it is medium size. not sure if it is determinate or indeterminate. Farmers here treat tomatoes as a 6-month crop only:


(i sliced it vertically instead of horizontally, my mistake)


I'll ask my farmer contacts about this if they are familiar with this tomato.

thanks for this info.

[pinakbet]

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research a bit on this tomato i think the proper name is Nagcarlang Tomato. (I think i know someone who lives in Nagcarlang)

here is the link that i found:http://forums.gardenweb.com/forums/l...159202450.html

I have seeds from Institute of University of the Philippines Los Banos - Plant Breading(UPLB-IPB) that they labeled as "Rica". It is said that you can plant it any month of the year.

[Stepheninky]

That sounds like the one thanks for the great info.

[carolyn137]

It's been listed in the SSE YEarbook for a very long time and one person still lists it in the 2010 SSE YEarbook, as Nagcalan, but I know that the proper name is Nagcarlang,since it has been used in some breeding work.

The interest has been heat and humidity tolerance, not taste, which I've seen no one say much about. And it's also described as a deep pink, not black. So who knows for sure.

[pinakbet]

Nagcarlan/Nagcarlang is the name of a town in Laguna, Southern Luzon.

[franzb69]

interesting, a local black tomato variety. wouldn't mind getting my hands on those. wonder where i can get some.... hard to find landrace varieties here these days. mostly hybrids.

[pinakbet]

According to gardenweb :

Nagcarlang looks different all the time because it's heterozygous, or not stable. The good feature about it though is that it can set fruit even in heavy rain. It's a deep pink to 'black' that is a bit on the seedy side.

source:
http://forums.gardenweb.com/forums/l...045426115.html

[korney19]

Yes, that was my pic. I've grown Nagcarlang 2-3x from different sources and always had different results but I believe the one I pictured is the closest to the original description from the 1950's I think.

P.S.

Here's my official description I used on ebay in 2007:

NEW!NAGCARLANG--70-75 DAYS--A very unusual wild tomato from the Phillipines, for many reasons. It's listed as heterozygous--not a stable open pollinated variety. It also can vary in color--one year I got orangy brown fruits, last time I got flatter dark pink to purple fruits. It is believed to be stress tolerant, heat tolerant, and rain tolerant--that is, not for cracks, but blossoms still pollinate even in humidity & heavy rains--something most tomatoes have problems with. It's officially listed as a wild "brownish purple" tomato. Fruits were ribbed or lobed, generally flatter like mini beefsteaks about 3 inches or so this time, and somewhat seedy.

[Stepheninky]

Have you tried any crosses with it yet. That was my main interest to see what might happen

[pinakbet]

Originally Posted by korney19

Yes, that was my pic. I've grown Nagcarlang 2-3x from different sources and always had different results but I believe the one I pictured is the closest to the original description from the 1950's I think.

P.S.

Here's my official description I used on ebay in 2007:

NEW!NAGCARLANG--70-75 DAYS--A very unusual wild tomato from the Phillipines, for many reasons. It's listed as heterozygous--not a stable open pollinated variety. It also can vary in color--one year I got orangy brown fruits, last time I got flatter dark pink to purple fruits. It is believed to be stress tolerant, heat tolerant, and rain tolerant--that is, not for cracks, but blossoms still pollinate even in humidity & heavy rains--something most tomatoes have problems with. It's officially listed as a wild "brownish purple" tomato. Fruits were ribbed or lobed, generally flatter like mini beefsteaks about 3 inches or so this time, and somewhat seedy.

cool. do you have spare seeds of these?

[korney19]

Originally Posted by Stepheninky

Have you tried any crosses with it yet. That was my main interest to see what might happen

No, nothing yet, and it complicates things because of being heterozygous, you yourself don't know if you have the correct seeds or not, plus you can get different results next time!

[korney19]

Originally Posted by pinakbet

cool. do you have spare seeds of these?

I really don't know what's left. The last time I saw them was in 2007. I would have to look for them and due to so much going on right now, it wouldn't be possible until later in the year. Drop me a message then.

[pinakbet]

Sure I will, thanks.

Its a weird feeling, I asked some people here on the agriculture industry and they never heard of that tomato either. And I only learned it out from people overseas.

[korney19]

Originally Posted by pinakbet

Sure I will, thanks.

Its a weird feeling, I asked some people here on the agriculture industry and they never heard of that tomato either. And I only learned it out from people overseas.

I originally heard about it in a research article on tomato breeding and the article was from the 1950's or older! The variety was sent to Canada. I lost a couple hard drive letters/partitions this year and not sure if I can find the article but will try.

Where are you located?