General information and discussion about cultivating onions, garlic, shallots and leeks.
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December 13, 2007 | #1 |
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Show us your garlic plants
How is everyone's garlic doing, and what varieties are you growing? I planted mine on 10/31, and as of today (12/13) about 90% of it has leafed out. The remaining 10% is all visible above the mulch, just hasn't leafed out yet. What I'm growing:
Creoles - Ajo Rojo, Burgundy, Creole Red, Cuban Purple, Labera Purple, Pescadero Red, Spanish Benitee Asiatic/Turban - Asian Tempest, Korean Red, Red Janice, Wonha Artichoke - Inchelium Red, Italian Purple, Simoneti Marbled Purple Stripe - Metechi That's around 140 plants. I started to plant two beds, but decided that was a bit excessive. Plus, that would be one less bed I'd have available in the spring for tomatoes. I did make a detailed map, in case something happens to the plant markers separating each variety. Click for Larger Size |
December 14, 2007 | #2 |
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I will take a pic today. I should (see record keeping thread) of made a map as the DAG Gum Armadillos keep digging it up looking for grubs!
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December 14, 2007 | #3 |
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Mark Korney told me he lays down CRW as both a planting guide and also for protection from digging animals. Maybe that might help you in the future?
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December 14, 2007 | #4 |
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my garlic is under a foot or 2 of the white mulch already. mine never sprouts until the following spring. it gets cold early here. i have music, chesnok red, carpathian, siberian, persian star, georgian crystal, asian tempest, rosso di sulmona, viola francese, bianco di piacentina, lemon, kettle river giant, superior northern, nootka rose and martins heirloom. about 300 cloves planted. 3 long rows, each variety separated by 2 catawissa onion bulblets, and written down in a note book whats planted where. my soft necks took a beating last spring when we had 16 inches of snow in mid april. inchelium red, and idaho silver were wiped out, lorz italian was reduced to 3 small bulbs. a couple other varieties took a beating too. a few cloves didn't divide to for bulbs. they just formed really big rounds. i planted most of those to see what size bulbs i would get. we had a very dry summer. that may have affected bulb size and growth. i mulched with straw this year, and plan to add more straw next spring for weed control, and moisture retention.
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December 15, 2007 | #5 |
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I normally get about 6 – 8 inches of growth when I plant in late October here in Zone 6a.
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December 15, 2007 | #6 |
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The small patch I planted on 10/3 grew to about 6"-8". In the larger patch planted 10/16, about 70% broke ground, those grew to about 1"-3".
I dug up one that had not broken through the ground, it had a nice sprout and about 1 1/2" root growth. Everything is going to be covered with that white mulch, that Keith referred, tonight . Earl, being that you're in southern Ohio, you could probably still get some in the ground. |
December 14, 2007 | #7 |
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I never got around to planting any this year but I did get some last year and they were pretty good. (still have some)
I did leave some in the ground but none have come up yet I think the rain may have rotted the cloves. Suze You must have gotten the selection from the garlic guy here in Texas from the selection I see. Those are all varieties that are supposed to do well here in the south. Rena, You have armadillos? I’m glad to see that the armadillos I sent you are doing well; I gave UPS instructions to just let them out at your door step upon delivery. Worth |
December 14, 2007 | #8 |
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I have no pictures. Unless you want to see mud covered with mulch.
I planted a total of about 100 cloves of the following varieties plus some shallots just before we had 6 days of solid rain. I saw a couple of small sprouts before the ground froze. Now the ground has thawed. Tomorrow it’s predicted to be freezing again. So, will I have garlic next year? Only God knows and He ain’t talking. Purple Glazer Shatili Russian Giant Khabaro Purple Glazer Siberian Music German Porcelain Elephant
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December 14, 2007 | #9 |
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Oh he!! I forgot to plant garlic! But my green garlic patches should be doing ok.
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December 14, 2007 | #10 |
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Question for the more moderate (not hot zone) growers. Does your garlic even sprout in the fall/winter, or does it wait until spring? Mine does.
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December 16, 2007 | #11 |
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They look like mustard greens to me.8)
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December 17, 2007 | #12 |
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In the one bed to the left is Bsprouts and to the right is Collards mixed with some Cauliflower. I have never had luck with Cauliflower but there appears to be some heads in there
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December 17, 2007 | #13 |
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I got my garlic from two different places. Gourmet Garlic Gardens and Filaree Farms.
As Rena says, order early. Best time to order is starting early as June - July because that's right after most people would harvest and get the info up on their websites to order. They tend to run out of the rare types rather quickly. I ordered late May from Bob this year, and from Filaree Farms in mid-June. In my opinion, it's probably also best to pick the earliest shipping window and hold onto it yourself until planting time, so you're sure that they don't run out. It's all harvested around the same time anyway, so ordering later won't make it any fresher... |
December 23, 2007 | #14 |
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When I run out of my homegrown stash (and I always do), I turn to SSE, specifically MN GI J and ... I think it's WA JO C. Always been satisfied with what they've sent. Joel usually sells out quickly; Carrie once was able to send me heads in February so I was able to get a Spring planting in.
This year, I planted 350 cloves, a combination of cloves grown at home, SSE, a Martha's Vineyard farmer's market, and those picture-perfect looking store-bought things grown in China. I want to get to the point where I have enough for cooking, planting stock, THEN offer some at SSE. J
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December 31, 2007 | #15 |
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Wow, so many different varieties. We don't have access to quite as many. And as for me, I just plant whatever garlic I can lay my hands on at planting time, which isn't until March/April here.
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