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Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: The Netherlands
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Hello all,
I am new in growing potatoes, so far only grown Nicola and Bintje potatoes in pots. I bought the Salad Blue and Highland Burgundy Red potato seeds since january '08 and each seed has produce 2 to 5 chubby shoots (about 1cm in diameter and about 3 to 5 cm long). I only let 2 to 3 shoots per seeds and just planted them in 10 to 12.5 litres pot per seed. I use manured compost for their growing medium (a mix of mushroom compost,old cow manure and top soil). Have you ever grow these potatoes ? I don't know how productive are they. Do I need a bigger pot for the seed ? I would also like to save the berries for the (true) seed purpose. Do I need to isolate them away from each other (I mean the Salad Blue and The Highland Burundy Red) ? If yes, how far ? Do I need to hand pollinate them or is the pollinations done by insect or wind ? So sorry if other has ask this before but I have no clue and needed help ![]() Many Thanks in advance ![]() |
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Crosstalk™ Forum Moderator
Join Date: Aug 2006
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I grew Nicola in the past and am planting again my Bintjes, plus some clean mini tubers of Bintje this spring. The Salad Blue is the same or similar to All Blue, here in the States. The Highland Burgandy is one I have not grown by that name but perhaps by a another name which is so common in your area. Your question about the containers to grow potatoes is a good one. 12.5 liters = 3.30215065 US gallons is an ample size container to grow potatoes. Quote:
No need to isolate for fruit/seed production. I cannot rely on wind/insect pollination so I frequently hand cross or self the flowers. You will get more vigor in the seedling population if you cross. OP potatoes don't yield as well as F-1 hybrids. In order to get berry set, you may have to "rob" the developing tubers to channel more energy into the plant to avoid early senescence and to trick the potato to set the blooms rather than abort. I did a little research for photos. Just click on the links for some rather striking shots. http://www.heritage-potatoes.co.uk/s...products_id=36 Highland Burgundy 1936 This variety dates back to at least 1936 when it was used to add appropriate colour to a meal for the Duke of Burgundy in the Savoy. Highland Burgundy Red is mostly burgundy red inside with a definite ring of white flesh just under the skin. Highland Burgundy red has a dull russet layer over a bright burgundy skin. The tubers are oval to long oval. They make excellent novelty chips, crisps and mash. Nutritionalists say that the antioxidants provide many health benefits, including protection against cancer and other diseases. http://potatoes.thompson-morgan.com/product/zww5199/1 http://www.picturenation.co.uk/catal...371&q=burgundy http://daughterofthesoil.blogspot.co...ge-potato.html http://www.art.com/asp/sp-asp/_/pd--...Cut_Potato.htm http://www.packetseeds.com/html/potatoes.html I have grown all but the Rover and the Gypsy of the above group. Good pixs of these colored potatoes. Hope you enjoy looking at them as much as I. Tom Wagner |
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Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Mar 2008
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Many thanks for your precious infos,Tom
![]() I bought them from Alan Romans (UK). I was (am) atrract by their beautiful colour plus it has high pigment content which work as potent antioxidant. I saw the Cranberry potato (or "all red" if I am not mistaken) on one of the US site, it look so a like with Highland Burgundy Red, love the colour ![]() I never seen any potato berries on either Nicola nor Bintje, hopefully I have better chance with these 2 potatoes. I read your thread about saving potatoes true seeds (berries). They are very informative, thanks so much for posting them,Tom ![]() ![]() Good luck with your Bintje ![]() |
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Crosstalk™ Forum Moderator
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Tomaat,
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I know of 24 and 31 named clones from the respective crosses of Nicola and Bintje. These two need to be pollinated with a different male parent clone in order to get seed set (berry set). I have fun with Bintje in the flavor department using Semlo a cross of Bintje and Gabriela, a cross of Solanum andigena out of Peru. Gabriela is a cross of Algona and Chola. I have been growing Algona crosses lately also. The cross of Semlo with Stina, a Nordic variety has produced many good clones for me. I have two more crossing generations with these, especially with an F-2 of Stina with further crosses with Peruvian/Idaho clones. It gets complicated after a while. I like to mix European, American and Peruvian clones to get wide adaptation in my germ plasm. Quote:
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Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: The Netherlands
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Thanks for the Nicola & Binjte's berry confirmation, it is good to know that
![]() ![]() I have hand polinated my squashes,cucumber,gourd,melon, pepper and quice ![]() ![]() It will be fun to see what come up ![]() You mentioned about the aroma of the potatoes berries, how does it smell like to tell it is ready to be pick, Tom ? I will have to look for the trisodium phosphat harder, we went to the nearby DIY shop and they don't have it and the shop keeper said it is a hard to get agent in NL ![]() ![]() Many thanks in advance, Nevi |
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Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Mar 2008
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Hi Tom,
Here is the Highland Burgundy red spud grown from TPS, I found the mini tuber accidentally thought it was an oak nut brought in by one of the squirel, unfortunately I have pluck it from the plant, but will keep it as a seed potato for next growing season. Thanks for all your great advice ![]() |
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Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Lakeland FL
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Hi are those Berries TPS on your Poatoe Plant? Paul
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Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Medbury, New Zealand
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looking healthy Nevi,i'm wondering if those berries are a little immature to pick yet,also could you post a photo of that HBR cut open.
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Tomatovillian™
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Paul, yes, those are fruit/berries of the Highland Burgundy Red spud (from last year).
MG, oh no...I will have to look for a smaller one for cutting up, not that one please ? The berries picture was taken last year, I did wait till it ripe...smell great when the berries ripe ![]() |
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Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Medbury, New Zealand
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ok thats good,look forward to the photo
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Tomatovillian™
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MG, how many spuds did you cut to find out about the colour of the flesh ?
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Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Medbury, New Zealand
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Every one has some red inside,but dont know if theres as much as whats in HBR
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Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: The Netherlands
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I have cut 1 tuber! Guess what, the flesh is red ,but not as magenta red as the tuber grown from seed potato (tuber).
I will post the picture tomorrow. |
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Tomatovillian™
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Here is the promised picture ! I am calling it "Rosy"
![]() ![]() MG, do you have your cut up pink spud picture ? |
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