Member discussion regarding the methods, varieties and merits of growing tomatoes.
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September 12, 2015 | #16 | |
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September 12, 2015 | #17 |
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September 12, 2015 | #18 |
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Awesome, Karen, many thanks. Do you happen to have any Aunt Ruby's German Green? For some reason, my saved seeds did not germinate, even when I put them in a damp paper towel sealed in a baggie.
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I was thinking more of naturally occuring PL hearts, not ones from accidental X pollinations or from deliberate crosses. Looking at my list of hearts I've grown I see Heshpole, which is PL but that came from an accidental X pollination. http://t.tatianastomatobase.com:88/wiki/Heshpole It can be a problem for anyone growing almost any variety, especially new ones ,where not much is known as to determining if the leaf form will be RL or PL, b'c what often happens is that the first true leaves look RL and as the seedling grows, the newer leaves are PL, which is why I don't make a call on leaf form until there are at least 4-5 sets of true leaves. Right now, off hand, I can't think of any hearts that are naturally PL and have been from the get go, so if any of you can think of any that would be great. Carolyn, still the obsessed heart lover.
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September 12, 2015 | #21 | |
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Hi Carolyn, Yes the Cross I made was between Ludmilla's pink heart and Captain Lucky. I have deliberately selected only PL plants from F2 onward and now all of the progeny I have are Potato leaf. At F3 the majority are big blunt hearts various colours, my favourite being a bicolour heart I am calling midnight sun. Early for a big tomato. Quite pleased with them so far but some beefsteaks have shown up in the F3 although a couple of those are really good too.
I want to stabilize them before I send out seed but once I have something I thin is pretty much stable, Tomatoville friends who wish to try it I will gladly give seed to. My next project is a fancy PL cherry. A cross I did this year hoping for a bicolour or a fabulous black in the F2. time will tell KarenO Quote:
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September 12, 2015 | #22 |
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Carolyn, How about Zore's Big Red--is it a naturally occurring Pl heart? There's
not a lot of info about it at Tatianna's. I grew it a few years back-the plant was extremely unusual looking-a very wispy Pl. I haven't seen it mentioned for a couple of years. Darlene |
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A couple of links,first Tania's link http://t.tatianastomatobase.com:88/w...b=General_Info Seed sources? Gleckler is out although I know if I contacted Adam he might well still have seeds. Didn't check Double Helix or the Delectation one and that's b'c Neil L whose response was at Tania's page has been not only a friend since the early 90's but one of my best seed producers and he's still listing it in the 2015 SSE Yearbook. And I know I could get seeds from him , I'm no longer a listed SSE member, my choice, BUT, he gets to list ANY of the newest varieties I send him for seed production him in the SSE Yearbooks where he lists about 600 varieties each year/ And now an older thread from Tville about it: http://www.tomatoville.com/showthread.php?t=16619 Good find Darlene, and does anyone else know of a PL natural long time heart? Carolyn
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September 12, 2015 | #24 |
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September 12, 2015 | #26 |
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O good, glad you got them! I didn't send mine yet. Glad you are growing OR117 as I am interested in what you will think in comparison when I can send you midnight sun seeds.
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September 12, 2015 | #27 |
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OK, now your just teasing me! LOL ( kidding) Truth is, I can hardly wait until your beautiful PL hearts be ome available. I have found a PL bicolor Dwarf Heart from the Ivalde line. I am naming it Gloria's treat after my mom. F5 now.
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September 13, 2015 | #28 |
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I was wondering if there are any determinate hearts ? I'll start checking Tania's database, but perhaps someone here knows and has experience with it.
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September 13, 2015 | #29 |
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Mark, Check out Danko-I think it may be a det. red heart. Many hearts are too
mild for our taste but I remember liking Danko very much. Darlene |
September 13, 2015 | #30 |
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Anyone use hearts for dehydrating ? I like the idea of trying hearts as a paste replacement for sauces but I also use paste types for dehydrating too.
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