Rugose Early determinate dwarfs Most satisfying

[BlackBear]

This is a List made up of Varieties that are 1)Rugose , 2)EARLY and 3)dwarfs . (O.P. of course !)

I have found This group is most satisfying to grow in small containers
(3 gallons or less ). By making this abstract list with no other leaf types
and no mid season etc. I have arrived at this list .





Mano
Kootenai
Krainiy Sever
Hahms gelbe
Geranium Kiss
Betalux
Bushy Charbovosky
Demidov
Cyril's Choice
Extreme Bush
Nevsky
Ola polka
Roza Vetrov
Siberia
Sandpoint
Taimyr
Yellow Pygmy
Yaponskiy Karlik


Rugose : (not my best results list)

Minibel
red robin


does anybody have any additions to this abstract list ????

[Cole_Robbie]

Hahns Gelbe is a micro-dwarf. Yellow Pygmy is a step up in size from microdwarf, but not as big as other dwarfs. I have two Bushy Chabarovsky going in the greenhouse right now. They will be my first tomatoes. I transplanted them into five-gallon buckets, because they kept growing. It's a determinate, but it keeps growing new flower clusters and getting bigger.

[BlackBear]

Very interesting about the Bushy Chabarovsky



Oh ya ...I forgot

Alpatieva 905A

Utyonok

Volgogradskiy 323

orange pixie rugose /potato

Yellow canary


They are interesting for small containers and of course some are happier in 5 gallon + etc.

[Andrey_BY]

My Geranium Kiss tomato looks more like PL
Russian gardening forums said there are 2 strains of GK - with rugose and potato leaf.
Will see what we get here.

[BlackBear]

great Pix of the Potato leaf ...

when does a variety become an actual other variety ....and not a "strain"
?? LOL

I guess if the fruit size/shape/ colour/ and various time till harvest and relative size of the plant is the same .....it is a "strain " ... ???? if only the leaf type varies ?

There sure are a whole lot more "strain"s out there than can be followed

easily from year to year ......

[BlackBear]

So far this year my "Initial" best for this bunch (at this point in the season )


1) Mano
2) Roza vetrov
3) Betalux
4) Polish Dwarf
5) Yaponskiy Karlik
6) Red Dwarf / RoterZwerg (appears to be Rugose leaf and early fruit set)

The others are doing well and I Might change My perception

if these others catch up...etc.

Cyril's Choice
Kootenai
Taimyr
Alpateiva 905a
Extreme bush
Nevsky
Siberia
Ola Polka
Utyonok


As always the small ones Yellow Pygmy and Venus are doing really well .


The Larger indeterminate dwarfs seem to be a bit slower to get going in comparison to the determinate dwarfs ......

So the above "Early Determinate Dwarfs" are a welcome addition to the "dwarfy" garden

whilst you wait for the Indeterminate Dwarfs to kick into production.

[korney19]

Updates please!

[BlackBear]

Originally Posted by korney19

Updates please!

sure ...anything in particular ?...otherwise ..

I will give a bit of 2 year anecdotal

reflection on this dwarfy pursuit .

and pursuit of 2017 year perspective .

[korney19]

How did each do?
Any pics?

[BlackBear]

Originally Posted by korney19

How did each do?
Any pics?

"for me" Very dependable in Heat and cool List :

Krainiy Sever
Hahms gelbe
Siberia
Yellow Pygmy
Yaponskiy Karlik
Budai Torpe (grew in 5 and ...2 gallon ..very productive 2017)
Chibikko
Mano
Puck


Did well in 2015/ 2016 but not as well

for 2017 (record heat stress year )
Betalux
Roza Vetrov


Only Grown in 2016 or before and gave great impression :


Ola polka
Kootenai
Cyril's Choice
Demidov
Nevsky
Polish Dwarf


Not so good for me but will try again in the future rotation :

Extreme Bush
Taimyr
Alpatieva 905A
Utyonok
Volgogradskiy 323
Yellow canary


also for 2017 :

Bonte tigerette ... did fine nice colour foliage striped fruit etc.

but not outstanding enough to be back . ( I prefer Fuzzy Wuzzy over the rugose bonte tigerette)

Geranium Kiss (Lack of attention misplced and forgotten ..whoops )

Budai Torpe .......Winner Winner ! very flexible I grew this one in a 2 gallon and 5 gallon containers !)

Puck ........Winner Winner !.....very early compact and productive .


2018 next year List from this Topic subset
: Sandpoint (new to me )
Geranium Kiss (retrial fair ..trial )
Budai Torpe
Cyril's Choice
Yellow Pygmy
Yaponskiy Karlik
Chibikko
Puck

Maybe Bushy Charbovosky.



I must mention some notable " non rugose (RL) " ones that will be back in 2018

Rejina
Rejina Yellow
Silvery fir
Fuzy Wuzzy (angora)
Sophie's Choice