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November 10, 2012 | #16 |
Tomatovillian™
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Seeds arrived today. Thanks. I'm looking forward to growing a few of them next spring.
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November 10, 2012 | #17 |
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Seeds arrived safe and sound.
I have a question. You mentioned in your initial post that you were unsure whether your Rose Quartz Multiflora was correct. You've labeled it as "Red Multiflora" on one of the seed packets you sent me. Does that mean that the tomato you grew had a yellow epidermis? Or is it reading "red" from a darker red flesh showing through a clear epidermis? |
November 10, 2012 | #18 |
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Seeds arrived yesterday...
Thank you |
November 10, 2012 | #19 | |
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I am not really sure about the epidermis. Here is a link to pix I took:
http://www.tomatoville.com/showthread.php?t=24476 Quote:
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November 11, 2012 | #20 |
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Question: I will be spraying my tomatoes regularly for blight.
Do you want me to spay these also, or do you want to see how they stand up to disease? |
November 11, 2012 | #21 |
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Seeds arrived yesterday. I'll be starting them sometime late Feb. early March. Thanks, I'll keep records and take photos.
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November 11, 2012 | #22 |
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November 11, 2012 | #23 | |
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I don't find any links to pictures in that thread when I look at it. |
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November 11, 2012 | #24 |
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November 11, 2012 | #25 |
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I'm just doing my research as to what to expect from the crosses I received. That led me to wonder what the desired result(s) were for each cross. Are you looking for anything specific out of each of these?
This will be my first foray into breeding/selection, so I'm just looking for any pointers as to what to look for. Thanks, |
November 11, 2012 | #26 |
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Chris -
Thanks for the seeds. I will keep you informed and send anything back from the F2 that looks interesting. Lee |
November 11, 2012 | #27 |
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I have only a general idea of what I'm looking for, mostly flavor improvements in many of them (e.g. the Juliet crosses). I'm really looking forward to the Dr. Carolyn crosses as I'd love to have some striped/multicolored cherries. Dr. C is a really good tomato, as are those I crossed it with. I'd really like to have more multi-flora lines to play with so thats why I chose that variety.
Keep in mind you are growing the F1 plants next year (or now if you are in the southern hemisphere) and returning some of the F2 seed to me. The traits will start to segregate in the F2 plants likely grown in 2014. I am not expecting much in the current F1's I sent you all. Think of it like the dwarf project. the F1 is usually pretty unremarkable. The dwarf plants start to show up in the F2. The F2 and beyond are the most interesting generations. It's also where the numbers of plants to grow explodes! Many of the crosses I offered in this thread are between stable open pollinated parents. Thus the F1's will all be identical and there is no need to grow many plants. That's why I sent only a few seeds. Any cross with an F1 as a parent (e.g. Juliet or Sungold crosses) will segregate in the generation you received, so multiple plants would be good to grow. Don't go crazy though! Don't hesitate to ask if there are other questions! |
November 12, 2012 | #28 | |
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From the picture, I'd be inclined to call them pink, a dark pink. At least the way my monitor is adjusted, I don't see the orange tones of a red. So, crossed with Prudens Purple, I'll expect a clear epidermis in the F1, a pink tomato. |
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November 12, 2012 | #29 |
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Chris, about your Rose Quartz Multiflora, IMO it is within normal variation tolerances for that variety. It is multifloral, it is pink, the size and shape are within the correct range. Environmental factors can lead to the nipple variations, so I think it looks right. The variety is a dark pink and your picture looks like a dark pink to me.
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November 12, 2012 | #30 | |
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Hmm, OK. The nipple and shape threw me and the color didn't look quite the same, but it's almost impossible to compare since monitors and cameras vary. Doesn't really look like the RQ MF at doublehelix: http://www.doublehelixfarms.com/rose-quartz I don't recall mine ever having any yellow.
The reason I picked it for crossing was for the multiflora trait. The only other one I have is Ildi, so I was actually pleasantly surprised to see it. Just wish my trading partner had responded to IMs! Quote:
Last edited by ChrisK; November 12, 2012 at 11:45 PM. |
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